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Re: IP4 Space
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:35:38 -0700
apples and oranges.
When did novell turn orange? I thought they were red. ;-)
I'd expect that v4 will still exist in legacy form behind firewalls, but I think its deprecation on the public internet will happen a lot faster than anyone expects.maybe you're right, but... I doubt it.I agree that v6 deployments seem to be getting better/faster/stronger... I think that's good news, but we'll still be paying the v4 piper for a while.Only until v4 becomes more expensive (using whatever metric matters to you) than v6.I have v4, it's not going to be anymore expensive than it is today for me... for new folks sure, but I've got mine.
If you start deploying IPv6, then, the cost of maintaining duplicate security policies (v4 and v6), duplicate host mappings, duplicate DNS, duplicate configurations on all your routers, etc. does eventually add up, as does the need for even more TCAM. These costs may be trivial in small environments, but, for major enterprises and large backbones, these costs will become significant. An additional not-yet recognized cost of IPv4 will come to light as the various transfer policies start super-fragmenting the address space and our TCAMs begin exploding with new IPv4 routes. Likely there will be scenarios where ISPs need a /16 but they can only find 240 non-aggregable /24s. They'll snap them up and bam... 240 new IPv4 routes. The ARIN transfer policies has some safeguards against this, but, most of the RIRs passed transfer policies without these safeguards. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: IP4 Space, (continued)
- Re: IP4 Space bmanning (Mar 23)
- Re: IP4 Space Mark Newton (Mar 23)
- Re: IP4 Space bmanning (Mar 23)
- Re: IP4 Space Michael Dillon (Mar 24)
- [OT] Old kit (was:Re: IP4 Space) Lamar Owen (Mar 26)
- Re: [OT] Old kit (was:Re: IP4 Space) Owen DeLong (Mar 26)
- Re: [OT] Old kit Joel Jaeggli (Mar 26)
- Re: [OT] Old kit (was:Re: IP4 Space) Jorge Amodio (Mar 26)
- Re: IP4 Space William Herrin (Mar 23)
- Re: IP4 Space Christopher Morrow (Mar 23)
- Re: IP4 Space Owen DeLong (Mar 24)
- Re: IP4 Space bmanning (Mar 24)
- RE: IP4 Space Frank Bulk - iName.com (Mar 24)
- Re: IP4 Space Dave Israel (Mar 24)
- Re: IP4 Space Bill Stewart (Mar 24)
- Re: IP4 Space Steven Bellovin (Mar 24)
- Re: IP4 Space Lamar Owen (Mar 26)
- Re: IP4 Space David Conrad (Mar 23)
- Re: IP4 Space isabel dias (Mar 23)
- Re: IP4 Space Nathan Ward (Mar 22)
