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Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?
From: Dave Sparro <dsparro () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:41:22 -0400
On 9/14/2010 4:02 PM, Nathan Eisenberg wrote:
The consumers are saying "I want faster, as long as I don't have to pay more." Content providers are saying, "If consumers had faster, I'd be able to invent 'Killer App'. I sure wish the ISPs would upgrade their networks." ISPs are saying, "Why should we upgrade our networks, nobody is willing to pay us to do so."Find me an ISP that is asking why they should upgrade their network if no one is going to pay them to do so. From a business perspective, this is a ludicrous claim. The answer is simple: because your competitors are upgrading their networks RIGHT NOW, and your customers will use them instead if you make them wait too long. There's no deadlock. Content providers that truly have a next generation product that modern broadband isn't good enough for are stuck, like anyone else who invents something that existing infrastructure can't support. Inventing a bizarre service prioritization model doesn't solve the infrastructure problem.
I don't see much competition from here. What I am seeing is a bunch of ISPs sitting on their hands waiting for the Feds to unlock the USF for broadband, or some other form of mana from heaven.
-- Dave
Current thread:
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?, (continued)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? William Herrin (Sep 13)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Dave Sparro (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? William Herrin (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 14)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Nathan Eisenberg (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Owen DeLong (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Michael Dillon (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Dave Sparro (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? JC Dill (Sep 14)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Nathan Eisenberg (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Dave Sparro (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Owen DeLong (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Sean Donelan (Sep 13)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Michael Dillon (Sep 13)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Fred Baker (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Bruce Williams (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Barry Shein (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Steven Bellovin (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Bill Stewart (Sep 17)
