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Re: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN
From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell () ufp org>
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:21:12 -0800
In a message written on Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 05:07:16PM -0500, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
To burn through all the /48s in 100 years, we'll have to use them up at the rate of 89,255 *per second*. That implies either *really* good aggregation, or your routers having enough CPU to handle the BGP churn caused by 90K new prefixes arriving on the Internet per second. Oh, and hot-pluggable memory, you'll need another terabyte of RAM every few hours. At that point, running out of prefixes is the *least* of your worries.
If you were allocating individual /48's, perhaps. But see, I'm a
cable company, and I want a /48 per customer, and I have a couple
of hundred thousand per pop, so I need a /30 per pop. Oh, and I
have a few hundred pops, and I need to be able to aggreate regionally,
so I need a /24.
By my calculations I just used 16M /48's and I did it in about 60
seconds to write a paragraph. That's about 279,620 per second, so
I'm well above your rate.
To be serious for a moment, the problem isn't that we don't have
enough /48's, but that humans are really bad at thinking about these
big numbers. We're going from a very constrained world with limited
aggregation (IPv4) to a world that seems very unconstrained, and
building in a lot of aggregation. Remember the very first IPv6
addressing proposals had a fully structured address space and only
4096 ISP's at the top of the chain!
If we aggregate poorly, we can absolutely blow through all the space,
stranding it in all sorts of new and interesting ways.
--
Leo Bicknell - bicknell () ufp org - CCIE 3440
PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/
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- Re: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN Per Carlson (Jan 31)
- Re: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 31)
- Re: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN Ricky Beam (Jan 24)
- Re: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN Mark Andrews (Jan 24)
- Re: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN Owen DeLong (Jan 24)
- Re: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN sthaug (Jan 24)
- Re: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN Mark Smith (Jan 25)
- Re: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN Ricky Beam (Jan 25)
- Re: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN Mark Andrews (Jan 25)
- Re: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 25)
- Re: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN Leo Bicknell (Jan 25)
- Re: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN Owen DeLong (Jan 25)
- Re: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 25)
- Re: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN Owen DeLong (Jan 25)
- RE: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN Tony Hain (Jan 25)
- Re: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN Owen DeLong (Jan 25)
- RE: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN Nathan Eisenberg (Jan 25)
- Re: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN Owen DeLong (Jan 25)
- Re: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN Eugen Leitl (Jan 26)
- Re: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN Roland Dobbins (Jan 26)
- RE: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 25)
