RE: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?)

[Ronald Bonica <rbonica () juniper net>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leo Bicknell [mailto:bicknell () ufp org]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:42 AM
> To: Ronald Bonica
> Cc: nanog () nanog org
> Subject: Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6
> broken?)
     [snip]
> But there is no roadmap in the IETF process now for LISP that says
> "We've got this 90% baked, we need to circulate a draft to the NANOG
> mailing list, request operator comments, and actively solicit operators
> to participate in the expanded test network".  We need that mechanism
> to
> tell folks "hey, it's real enough your operational feedback is now
> useful" and "come test our new idea".

Leo,

We need to fix this problem. Without the feedback loop that you describe, the IETF will never know whether they are 
producing useful stuff or nonsense.

How does the following sound as a solution:

Let's say we set up an new IETF mailing list, primarily for the use of operators. When an operator sees a draft that 
might be of interest to the operational community, he creates a new thread on the list, copying the draft authors and 
WG chairs. (The authors and chairs can decide whether to add the WG to the thread). The OPS AD will consider thread 
contents when evaluating the draft.

                                                                   Ron