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Re: NDP DoS attack (was Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?))
From: Jeff Wheeler <jsw () inconcepts biz>
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:35:41 -0400
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:42 AM, William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:
My off-the-cuff naive solution to this problem would be to discard the oldest incomplete solicitation to fit the new one and, upon receiving an apparently unsolicited response to a discarded solicitation, restart the process flagging that particular query non-discardable.
Do you mean to write, "flagging that ND entry non-discardable?" Once the ND entry is in place, it should not be purged for quite some time (configurable is a plus), on the order of minutes or hours. Making them "permanent" would, however, cause the ND table to eventually become full when foolish things like frequent source address changes for "privacy" are in use, many clients are churning in and out of the LAN, etc.
Where does this naive approach break down?
It breaks down because the control-plane can't handle the relatively small number of punts which must be generated in order to send ND solicits, and without the ability to install "incomplete" entries into the data-plane, those punts cannot be policed without, by design, discarding some "good" punts along with the "bad" punts resulting from DoS traffic. -- Jeff S Wheeler <jsw () inconcepts biz> Sr Network Operator / Innovative Network Concepts _____ NANOG mailing list NANOG () nanog org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog
Current thread:
- Re: NDP DoS attack (was Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?)), (continued)
- Re: NDP DoS attack (was Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?)) Dobbins, Roland (Jul 17)
- Re: NDP DoS attack Florian Weimer (Jul 17)
- Re: NDP DoS attack Dobbins, Roland (Jul 17)
- Re: NDP DoS attack Mikael Abrahamsson (Jul 17)
- Re: NDP DoS attack Florian Weimer (Jul 17)
- Re: NDP DoS attack Mikael Abrahamsson (Jul 17)
- Re: NDP DoS attack Florian Weimer (Jul 17)
- Re: NDP DoS attack Mikael Abrahamsson (Jul 17)
- Re: NDP DoS attack Florian Weimer (Jul 17)
- Re: NDP DoS attack (was Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?)) William Herrin (Jul 17)
- Re: NDP DoS attack (was Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?)) Jeff Wheeler (Jul 17)
- Re: NDP DoS attack (was Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?)) Owen DeLong (Jul 17)
- Re: NDP DoS attack (was Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?)) Jeff Wheeler (Jul 17)
- Re: NDP DoS attack (was Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?)) Owen DeLong (Jul 17)
- Re: NDP DoS attack (was Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?)) William Herrin (Jul 17)
- Re: NDP DoS attack (was Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?)) Owen DeLong (Jul 17)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Jeff Wheeler (Jul 11)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Owen DeLong (Jul 11)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Benson Schliesser (Jul 12)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) William Herrin (Jul 11)
- RE: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Ronald Bonica (Jul 12)
