Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

[Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>]

In message <E9D05F4B-081C-4F5D-9C6F-05F4FF8F0B66 () delong com>, Owen DeLong writes:
> On Jun 8, 2011, at 5:46 AM, Mark Andrews wrote:
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> > In message <B7872A58-DE28-4CC2-8929-931FD3CE019C () delong com>, Owen =
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> > > On Jun 7, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
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> > > > In message =3D
> > > <AF24AE2D4A4D334FB9B667985E2AE763A3AC06@mail1-sea.office.spectrumnet
> > > > .us>, John van Oppen writes:
> > > > > I was wondering the same thing...   we have v6 enabled to about 700 =
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> > > users i=3D3D
> > > > > n our native Ethernet to the home deployment here in Seattle.    =3D
> > > Unfortunat=3D3D
> > > > > ely, user routers don't seem to often support v6 resulting in only =
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> > > about 2-=3D3D
> > > > > 8% of users in most buildings using it, and most of those are just =
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> > > people p=3D3D
> > > > > lugged directly into the wall jacks we provide without routers.   I =
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> > > > > how long it will take for everyone to upgrade their home routers.
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> > > > > John
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> > > > If all the home CPE router vendors stopped shipping IPv4 only boxes,
> > > > not that long.  At the moment the price point for IPv6 CPE routers
> > > > is still 2-3x the IPv4 only boxes when you can find one though not
> > > > all of that difference is IPv6.  The IPv6 boxes often have multiple
> > > > radio and other extras.  This shows that CPE vendors still see IPv6
> > > > as something *extra* and not something that should be *standard*.
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> > > The D-Link DIR series v6 capables are not actually more than about a =
> 10%
> > > premium over the corresponding ipv4-only competition.
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> > > I see them in computer stores fairly regularly these days.
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> > > Owen
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> > Wireless G Modem Router     $79.00  v4      G
> > N-150                       $79.95  v4      G
> > DIR-615                     $129.00 v4/v6   G/N
> > DIR-815                     $199.95 v4/v6   G/N
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> Interesting... In the US, it's more like:
>
> N-150         $35                     v4/-- G
> DIR-615               $44                     v4/v6 A/N(5) or B/G/N(2.4)
> DIR-815               $79                     v4/v6 A/N(5) and B/G/N(2.4)
>
> The jump in price from the 615 to 815 is likely more related
> to the dual-radio vs. dual-band single radio.
>
> The jump between the N-150 and DIR-615 could be similarly
> attributed to the single-band radio vs. dual-band radio
>
> As such, it doesn't look like a huge jump in price for IPv6 to me.
> It looks comparable.
>
> > The IPv6 price point is still well above the IPv4 only price point.
> > =20
> > 1.00AUD =3D 1.06USD
>
> Perhaps that's an accurate exchange rate, but, apparently there is
> a bigger difference in pricing than just the exchange point. Prices
> above obtained by google search a few minutes ago.

The AUD prices include all taxes.  That being said one can still
buy retail in the states including taxes, add shipping and come out
in front for a identical product.  3x markup is a rip-off.

> Owen
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