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RE: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option?
From: "Frank Bulk" <frnkblk () iname com>
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 21:41:15 -0500
I think the term "critical" is being used in different senses in this discussion. Are people's lives critical? Yes, but the regulations for wired and wireless infrastructure don't require service providers to expend any and all costs to maintain connectivity. And we don't have ambulances and fire trucks at every corner and hospitals in every subdivision. Despite the almost incalculable value of life, there are still limitations on all the services provided to residences. Would I like to have the same uptime at my home as we have in the CO? or data center? Sure, but collectively we aren't willing, nay, able, to pay that price. Frank -----Original Message----- From: William Herrin [mailto:bill () herrin us] Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 11:15 PM To: Andy Koch Cc: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option? <snip> On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Nathan Eisenberg <nathan () atlasnetworks us> wrote:
Residences aren't critical infrastructure, no matter how angry the owners
get.
911 access isn't a critical service? Fire and security panels aren't
critical services?
If basic life safety and property protection aren't critical services, I'm
not sure what is. Whether each individual's residence contains critical infrastructure is a decision best left up to that individual. By necessity that makes the upstream aggregation components critical infrastructure. No different than it was for POTS 20 years ago. The Internet isn't just a toy any more. It's the primary communications channel in to many folks homes and well on its way to becoming the primary channel period. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
Current thread:
- Re: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option?, (continued)
- Re: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option? William Herrin (Aug 04)
- Re: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option? Eugen Leitl (Aug 04)
- Re: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option? William Herrin (Aug 04)
- RE: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option? Wallace Keith (Aug 03)
- Re: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option? Chris Adams (Aug 04)
- Re: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option? William Herrin (Aug 04)
- Re: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option? Chris Adams (Aug 04)
- Re: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option? Jimmy Hess (Aug 04)
- Re: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option? William Herrin (Aug 04)
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- Re: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option? William Herrin (Aug 04)
- RE: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option? Frank Bulk (Aug 05)
- Re: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option? William Herrin (Aug 05)
- Re: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option? joel jaeggli (Aug 05)
- RE: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option? Ralph E. Whitmore, III (Aug 05)
- RE: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option? Frank Bulk (Aug 06)
- Re: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option? William Herrin (Aug 06)
- RE: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option? Frank Bulk (Aug 04)
- RE: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option? Nathan Eisenberg (Aug 04)
- RE: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option? Frank Bulk (Aug 05)
- Re: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option? Owen DeLong (Aug 04)
