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RE: NANOG Digest, Vol 59, Issue 80
From: Jakob Heitz <jakob.heitz () ericsson com>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 21:19:49 +0000
Voltage causes sparks, but... Maybe you got the spark when you disconneted the wire. In that case, you likely have a ground loop carrying current and a long wire. When you disconnect the wire, the current wants to keep flowing due to loop inductance. This causes the voltage spike and hence the spark.
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 14:14:29 -0600
From: "Naslund, Steve" <SNaslund () medline com>
To: "George Herbert" <george.herbert () gmail com>, "Matthew Kaufman"
<matthew () matthew at> Cc: nanog () nanog org
Subject: RE: Fiber only in DataCenters?
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It takes a lot of voltage to cause an arcing spark. I would suspect
static buildup along the way and bad grounding. Even a big facility
with a good ground should not have enough voltage differential between
grounding points to cause sparks. Having the right size rack
grounding should give you a very low resistance to ground from any
point. The most common problem I have seen in large facilities is
multiple grounds
that are not tied together or cables that are grounded at multiple
points causing a loop current. It is critical that everything have a
single ground, that includes racks, electrical distribution,
cable tray,
etc. Most Cat X cables are unshielded and do not have a ground
conductor so you must have equipment at the same potential at
both ends
or you will get loop current for sure.
As far as voltage in Cat X cables, the real factor is the current
carrying capacity of a particular wire gage. It does not really matter
whether it is Cat 6 or a coat hanger, current capacity is a
function of
cable cross section and what material it is made of. Copper has a
specific resistance as do all other metals. A copper cable needs to
have enough cross section to dissipate the heat generated by its
resistance. A less conductive material requires more cross section to
dissipate the increased heat. At extremely high voltages
things become
more complex because of the skin affect that causes the power to move
through the outer parts of the cable more than the inner parts. These
levels are not a factor in communications cables.
The main factor for fiber over copper in data centers is all
about cost.
Most servers include copper connections and fiber costs
something extra.
For switches, the cost of the optics is significant. Fiber does help
prevent damage due to surges or electrical faults but if these are a
problem in your datacenter you have bigger fish to fry.
Steven Naslund
-- Jakob Heitz.
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