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Re: ZOMG: IPv6 a plot to stymie FBI !!!11!ONE!
From: Vinny Abello <vinny () abellohome net>
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:01:57 -0400
On 6/15/2012 11:59 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57453738-83/fbi-dea-warn-ipv6-could-shield-criminals-from-police/ <sigh> Cheers, -- jra
I fail to see the problem the media and FBI are worried about. If the regional registries are accurately documenting who they are allocating assignments to, the authorities have somewhere to start. Even if everything is properly documented via SWIP or WHOIS, the FBI requests far more information in a subpena from ISP's than is provided by those tools and I don't think they generally really even rely on them to be accurate. They go straight to the ISP from what I've seen. They don't want the criminal to know the FBI is on to them and won't first go direct to the end user. A /64, /56 or even /48 will be one customer, so regardless if a criminal keeps changing IP's inside those blocks, it still points to that customer which the ISP can provide to the FBI. Where is the issue? I don't see how this is that hard to track down. What's the difference with an ISP that didn't SWIP an IPv4 /29 allocation to a company with all RFC1918 space behind the address. <sarcasm> How oh how will they ever find the criminal within all of that IPv4 address space behind the ISP assigned /29 without someone documenting the RFC1918 space in the customer's network??!?! </sarcasm> If anything, I feel like this is a ploy by the FBI feeding the media to get criminals to adopt IPv6 thinking they're harder to track and drop their guard so they'll be easier to catch. -Vinny
Current thread:
- Re: ZOMG: IPv6 a plot to stymie FBI !!!11!ONE!, (continued)
- Re: ZOMG: IPv6 a plot to stymie FBI !!!11!ONE! Jimmy Hess (Jun 17)
- Re: ZOMG: IPv6 a plot to stymie FBI !!!11!ONE! Vinny Abello (Jun 17)
- Re: ZOMG: IPv6 a plot to stymie FBI !!!11!ONE! Cameron Byrne (Jun 17)
- Re: ZOMG: IPv6 a plot to stymie FBI !!!11!ONE! Arturo Servin (Jun 18)
- Re: ZOMG: IPv6 a plot to stymie FBI !!!11!ONE! Owen DeLong (Jun 18)
- Re: ZOMG: IPv6 a plot to stymie FBI !!!11!ONE! Arturo Servin (Jun 18)
- Re: ZOMG: IPv6 a plot to stymie FBI !!!11!ONE! Arturo Servin (Jun 17)
- Re: ZOMG: IPv6 a plot to stymie FBI !!!11!ONE! John Levine (Jun 17)
- Re: ZOMG: IPv6 a plot to stymie FBI !!!11!ONE! Arturo Servin (Jun 17)
- Re: ZOMG: IPv6 a plot to stymie FBI !!!11!ONE! Jay Ashworth (Jun 18)
- Re: ZOMG: IPv6 a plot to stymie FBI !!!11!ONE! John Curran (Jun 17)
- Re: ZOMG: IPv6 a plot to stymie FBI !!!11!ONE! Vinny Abello (Jun 17)
- Re: ZOMG: IPv6 a plot to stymie FBI !!!11!ONE! Owen DeLong (Jun 15)
- Re: ZOMG: IPv6 a plot to stymie FBI !!!11!ONE! Dave Edelman (Jun 15)
- Re: ZOMG: IPv6 a plot to stymie FBI !!!11!ONE! goemon (Jun 15)
- Re: ZOMG: IPv6 a plot to stymie FBI !!!11!ONE! Owen DeLong (Jun 15)
- Re: ZOMG: IPv6 a plot to stymie FBI !!!11!ONE! goemon (Jun 15)
