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Re: Typical additional latency for CGN?


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:42:11 -0700


On Oct 7, 2012, at 3:18 PM, Cameron Byrne <cb.list6 () gmail com> wrote:

On Oct 7, 2012 1:48 PM, "Tom Limoncelli" <tal () whatexit org> wrote:

Have there been studies on how much latency CGN adds to a typical
internet user?   I'd also be interested in anecdotes.


Anecdote. Sub-millasecond, with full load. (gigs and gigs) . CGN does not
meaningfully add latency. CGN is not enough of a factor to impact happy
eyeballs in a way that improves ipv6 use.

I've seen theoretical predictions but by now we should have
measurements from early-world deployments.


Most mobile providers have been doing what is commonly called cgn for 5 to
10 years. CGN is not a new concept or implementation for mobile.


True, but, as we have discussed before, mobile users, especially in the US,
have dramatically lowered expectations of internet access from their mobile
devices vs. what they expect from a household ISP.

We expect half the services we want to be crippled by mobile carriers because
they don't like competition. We file lawsuits when that happens on our
terrestrial connections.

Owen



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