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Re: IP tunnel MTU
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:47:29 -0400
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Ray Soucy <rps () maine edu> wrote:
The core issue here is TCP MSS. PMTUD is a dynamic process for adjusting MSS, but requires that ICMP be permitted to negotiate the connection. The realistic alternative, in a world that filters all ICMP traffic, is to manually rewrite the MSS. In IOS this can be achieved via "ip tcp adjust-mss" and on Linux-based systems, netfilter can be used to adjust MSS for example.
Longer term, the ideal solution would be a replacement algorithm that allows TCP to adjust its MSS with or without negative acknowledgement from intermediate routers. The ICMP-didn't-get-there problem is only going to get worse and things like private IPs on routers and encapsulation mechanisms where the intermediate router isn't dealing with an IP packet directly are as much at fault these days as foolish firewall admins. Perhaps my understanding of end-to-end is flawed, but I suspect it means that an endpoint shouldn't depend on direct communication with an intermediate system for its successful communication with another endpoint. Maybe something as simple as clearing the don't fragment flag and adding a TCP option to report receipt of a fragmented packet along with the fragment sizes back to the sender so he can adjust his mss to avoid fragmentation. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
Current thread:
- Re: Please, talk me down., (continued)
- Re: Please, talk me down. Suresh Ramasubramanian (Oct 21)
- Re: Please, talk me down. Mark Andrews (Oct 21)
- forward and reverse DNS (was: Please, talk me down.) Andrew Sullivan (Oct 22)
- IP tunnel MTU Templin, Fred L (Oct 22)
- Re: IP tunnel MTU Dobbins, Roland (Oct 22)
- RE: IP tunnel MTU Templin, Fred L (Oct 23)
- Re: IP tunnel MTU Ray Soucy (Oct 29)
- RE: IP tunnel MTU Templin, Fred L (Oct 29)
- Re: IP tunnel MTU Ray Soucy (Oct 29)
- Re: IP tunnel MTU Shahab Vahabzadeh (Oct 29)
- Re: IP tunnel MTU William Herrin (Oct 29)
- RE: IP tunnel MTU Templin, Fred L (Oct 29)
- Re: IP tunnel MTU Chris Woodfield (Oct 29)
- RE: IP tunnel MTU Templin, Fred L (Oct 30)
- Re: IP tunnel MTU Joe Maimon (Oct 29)
- Re: IP tunnel MTU Jared Mauch (Oct 29)
- Re: IP tunnel MTU Tim Durack (Oct 29)
- Re: IP tunnel MTU Tim Franklin (Oct 30)
- Re: IP tunnel MTU Sander Steffann (Oct 30)
- Re: IP tunnel MTU Jeroen Massar (Oct 30)
- Re: IP tunnel MTU Joe Maimon (Oct 29)
