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RE: Ethernet OAM BCPs Please are there any yet???


From: Adam Vitkovsky <adam.vitkovsky () swan sk>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 09:39:29 +0200

Thank you so much Jonathon. 
This is exactly what I what I was searching for.
Oh and yes I should have mentioned I'd like to do the Y.1731 and measure the
delay and delay variance

Just yesterday evening I found a great article about how ATT did theirs
active measurements though for IP - wondering if I could do the same for my
Y.1731
They used dedicated servers and I'll be running this form the routers
ME3600X and CX and ASR9K so I'm a bit worried about the scaling of the whole
thing

ATT basically used two probes and each 24-hour day is divided into 96 test
cycles of 15 minutes

A Poisson probe sequence of duration equal to the test cycle
characteristics:
 - Poisson distribution with average interarrival time of 3.3 s
 - Packet size of 278 bytes, including headers 
 - UDP protocol

Two periodic probe sequences in every test
characteristics:
 - Interval of 20 ms between successive packets (or 50 packets/s)
 - 1 min duration
 - Random start time within the 15 min cycle
 - Packet size of 60 bytes (including headers)
 - UDP protocol


adam

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathon Exley [mailto:Jonathon.Exley () kordia co nz] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 6:34 PM
To: nanog () nanog org
Subject: RE: Ethernet OAM BCPs Please are there any yet???

The ITU recommend the following levels:

5,6,7 = Customer
3,4  = Provider
1,2  = Operator
0    = Local segment

I don't know if there are any rules of thumb for the CCM interval - faster
is more sensitive & unstable, slow is sluggish but stable. The spec allows
between 3.33 ms and 10 minutes in 7 steps, with 1s being the midpoint. So we
use 1s intervals.

I'm not sure if the other parameters you mention are configurable for CCM. I
think the packet has a constant size. Are you wanting to also do Y.1731
performance management?

Jonathon 


-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Vitkovsky [mailto:adam.vitkovsky () swan sk]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2012 9:29 p.m.
To: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Ethernet OAM BCPs Please are there any yet???

Hi
Are there any best common practices for the CFM levels use Since my 
pure Ethernet aggregation layers are small I believe I only need two 
CFM levels I plan on using Level 5 between CPEs managed by us and 
Level 4 between Aggregation devices -that's where MPLS PWs kicks in So 
leaving Level 7 and Level 6 for customers and carrier-customers 
respectfully -would this be enough please?

I'm also interested on what's the rule of thumb for CCMs Frequency, 
Number of Packets, Interpacket Interval, Packet Size and Lifetime for 
the particular operation Thanks a lot for any inputs

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