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Re: comcast ipv6 PTR
From: Barry Shein <bzs () world std com>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 15:48:09 -0400
On October 15, 2013 at 13:55 cma () cmadams net (Chris Adams) wrote:
Random end users shouldn't be talking to MTAs. They should be using MSAs instead.
That's a policy decision, some allow this, some resist it.
It's too bad that we've created this exclusive club of the anointed
who may speak to MTAs just because of some bad actors. It's not like
the basic idea is particularly a bad one.
An ideal I'd prefer is get rid of the botnets and similar through
other means, improving client technology and increasing the likelihood
of arrest of those who exploit them for example.
What's occurring is that the same factors which led to the mass
spammers is now, more and more, drawing in what might be termed
"legitimate" businesses. And we're tending to use our sense of social
class to distinguish which is which, not (IMHO) a good trend.
But what business can resist the siren call of postage-free (i.e.,
nearly free) marcom with their customers?
Particularly where there are millions of customers. Talk to them every
day, twice a day, ten times a day! Whatever it takes, apply for this
credit card, donate to this worthy cause, lowest prices on vacations
in Maui, new book available...
The result?
I think people just ignore most email and tend towards very exclusive
whitelisting one way or another (human or scripted.) But what the
heck, it's free! Keep that bilge pump running.
MarCom too cheap to meter!
Now there's a policy issue.
It's gotten so you can barely hear the spam over the roar of the
("legitimate") marcom.
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Current thread:
- Re: comcast ipv6 PTR, (continued)
- Re: comcast ipv6 PTR Andrew Sullivan (Oct 15)
- Re: comcast ipv6 PTR Barry Shein (Oct 14)
- Re: comcast ipv6 PTR Jimmy Hess (Oct 14)
- Re: comcast ipv6 PTR - DNSSEC bmanning (Oct 14)
- Re: comcast ipv6 PTR - DNSSEC Barry Shein (Oct 15)
- Re: comcast ipv6 PTR Barry Shein (Oct 15)
- Re: comcast ipv6 PTR John Levine (Oct 14)
- Re: comcast ipv6 PTR Barry Shein (Oct 15)
- Re: comcast ipv6 PTR Chris Adams (Oct 15)
- Re: comcast ipv6 PTR Eugen Leitl (Oct 15)
- Re: comcast ipv6 PTR Barry Shein (Oct 15)
- Re: comcast ipv6 PTR Cutler James R (Oct 15)
- Re: comcast ipv6 PTR John R. Levine (Oct 15)
- Re: comcast ipv6 PTR Mark Andrews (Oct 14)
- Re: comcast ipv6 PTR Lee Howard (Oct 15)
- Re: comcast ipv6 PTR Joe Abley (Oct 15)
- Re: comcast ipv6 PTR John R. Levine (Oct 15)
- Re: comcast ipv6 PTR Joe Abley (Oct 15)
- Re: comcast ipv6 PTR John R. Levine (Oct 15)
- Re: comcast ipv6 PTR Mark Andrews (Oct 15)
- Re: comcast ipv6 PTR John R. Levine (Oct 15)
