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Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT]
From: "C. Jon Larsen" <jlarsen () richweb com>
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 16:03:36 -0400 (EDT)
Which leads me to ask - those of you running server farms - what distros are popular these days, for server-side operations? We've been running Debian like forever (by way of Solaris and redhat) - but this systemd thing is making me rethink things. Seems like an awful lot of folks are now designing for the desktop, and it might be time to migrate to a BSD or Solaris derivative. What are others doing?to be honest, i like systemd. nobody else has really stepped up to the bat to fix issues of existing init systems and tying interoperabilty into a common bus.
Perhaps because folks that understand more about security than you (and me for sure so I'm not picking on you) think thats a bad idea? If something is a bad idea then smart folks dont rush out (generally) to build it ... thus the no one stepping up to bat "problem" thats not really a problem - its a good thing to not have problems solved improperly.
Perhaps because when you say/hear things like "tying interoperabilty into a common bus" you think thats a good idea. Others hear those same words and think:
vendor lock-in single point of failure lack of choiceThe binary logging thing is a non-starter for a lot of folks. dbus ? On a server ? Do we really need that ?
Lets keep servers reliable - less code not more (no bugs in unwritten code).
Shouldnt the amount of code running as PID 1 be kept to an absolute minimum?
Bad architecture decisions dont suddenly become good ones even if they solve other problems along the way or make some things better or faster.
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- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT], (continued)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Randy Bush (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Joe Greco (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Randy Bush (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Joe Greco (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Jimmy Hess (Oct 22)
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- Self destruction in open source systems (was Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT]) Larry Sheldon (Oct 22)
- Re: Self destruction in open source systems (was Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT]) Joe Hamelin (Oct 22)
- Re: Self destruction in open source systems (was Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT]) Miles Fidelman (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] David Ford (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Miles Fidelman (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] C. Jon Larsen (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Randy Bush (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Miles Fidelman (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Jeffrey Ollie (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Gary Buhrmaster (Oct 22)
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- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Gregory Boyce (Oct 23)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Jay Ashworth (Oct 27)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Chris Adams (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Jeffrey Ollie (Oct 22)
