Re: Marriott wifi blocking

[Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com>]

Except that this is the difference between what happens at a Marriott and what would happen at a business that was 
running rogue AP detection. In the business the portable AP would be trying to look like the network that the company 
operated so as to siphon off legitimate users. In a hotel the portable AP would be trying to create a different, 
separate network. And so your thesis does not hold. 

I think this is the distinction we need. Because it's clear that the business thing should be able to happen and the 
hotel thing should

On October 3, 2014 10:25:22 PM EDT, Hugo Slabbert <hugo () slabnet com> wrote:
> On Fri 2014-Oct-03 17:21:08 -0700, Michael Van Norman <mvn () ucla edu>
> wrote:
>
> > IANAL, but I believe they are.  State laws may also apply (e.g.
> California
> > Code - Section 502).  In California, it is illegal to "knowingly and
> > without permission disrupts or causes the disruption of computer
> services
> > or denies or causes the denial of computer services to an authorized
> user
> > of a computer, computer system, or computer network."  Blocking access
> to
> > somebody's personal hot spot most likely qualifies.
>
> My guess would be that the hotel or other organizations using the 
> blocking tech would probably just say the users/admin of the rogue APs 
> are not authorized users as setting up said AP would probably be in 
> contravention of the AUP of the hotel/org network.
>
> > /Mike
>
> --
> Hugo
>
> > On 10/3/14 5:15 PM, "Mike Hale" <eyeronic.design () gmail com> wrote:
> >
> > > So does that mean the anti-rogue AP technologies by the various
> > > vendors are illegal if used in the US?
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com> wrote:
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Ricky Beam" <jfbeam () gmail com>
> > > >
> > > > > It doesn't. The DEAUTH management frame is not encrypted and
> carries no
> > > > > authentication. The 802.11 spec only requires a reason code be
> > > > > provided.
> > > >
> > > > What's the code for E_GREEDY?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
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