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Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality


From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 10:45:11 -0600 (CST)

What about ISPs that aren't world-class dicks? 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



----- Original Message -----

From: "William Herrin" <bill () herrin us> 
Cc: "NANOG" <nanog () nanog org> 
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 10:34:37 AM 
Subject: Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality 

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Michael O Holstein 
<michael.holstein () csuohio edu> wrote: 
Just think of all that innovation and investment that's been "stifled" over the last 50 years under Title II. 
Anyone remember having to "rent" their rotary phones from AT&T? 

No, but I remember in the late '90s AT&T demanding I mail them back 
the rotary phones that my grandmother had rented for 30 years. 

The bigest telcos were the architects of their own grief on Net 
Neutrality. No one should feel sorry for them. 



On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Miles Fidelman 
<mfidelman () meetinghouse net> wrote: 
(As far as I can tell, Verizon has not played games with favoring their own 
content - for all intents and purposes, they operate FIOS as a common 
carrier - no funny throttling, no usage caps, etc.) 

Throttled Netflix to unusability while selling FIOS TV? Still have 
much of their settlement-free peering choked hard while "paid peering" 
folks sail on by? Verizon is easily the worst offender. 


Regards, 
Bill "loving those 100ms pings" Herrin 

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William Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us 
Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> 


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