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Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality
From: Nick Hilliard <nick () foobar org>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 23:20:17 +0000
On 28/02/2015 22:38, Barry Shein wrote:
Asymmetric service was introduced to discourage home users from deploying "commercial" services.
there were several reasons for asymmetric services, one of which was commercial. Another was that most users' bandwidth profiles were massively asymmetric to start with so it made sense for consumers to have more bandwidth in one direction than another. Another still was that cross-talk causes enough interference to prevent reverse adsl (i.e. greater bandwidth from customer to exchange) from working well.
As were bandwidth caps.
Bandwidth caps were introduced in many cases to stop gratuitous abuse of service by the 1% of users who persistently ran their links at a rate that the pricing model they selected was not designed to handle. You've been around the block a bit so I'm sure you remember the days when transit was expensive and a major cost factor in running an isp. Some operators used and continue to use asymmetric bandwidth profiles and bandwidth caps as methods for driving up revenue rather than anything else in particular. International cellular roaming plans come to mind as one of the more egregious example of this, but there are many others. Nick
Current thread:
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality, (continued)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Jack Bates (Feb 27)
- RE: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Naslund, Steve (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Barry Shein (Feb 28)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Mike Hammett (Feb 28)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Jack Bates (Feb 28)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Michael Thomas (Feb 28)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Clayton Zekelman (Feb 28)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Mike Hammett (Feb 28)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Clayton Zekelman (Feb 28)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Michael Thomas (Feb 28)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Nick Hilliard (Feb 28)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality John Levine (Feb 27)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Miles Fidelman (Feb 27)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Scott Helms (Feb 27)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Jack Bates (Feb 27)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Stephen Satchell (Feb 27)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Scott Helms (Feb 27)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Jack Bates (Feb 27)
- RE: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Naslund, Steve (Feb 27)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Jack Bates (Feb 27)
- RE: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Naslund, Steve (Feb 27)
