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Re: HTTPS redirects to HTTP for monitoring
From: Kelly Setzer <Kelly.Setzer () wnco com>
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 20:05:18 +0000
I don't know if you're referring to HSTS. If not, it's worth noting in this thread. As I understand HSTS, session decryption is still possible on sites that send the 'Strict-Transport-Security' header. See: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6797 I suspect it's only a matter of time before browsers become suspicious by default, requiring that HTTPS responses be signed and requiring that SSL certificates come from trusted sources. In other words, HSTS is the next step in a long-running arms race. It will not be the last. See this 1997 article for a taste: http://www.apacheweek.com/features/ssl Money quote: "The US Government imposes export restrictions on arms, in a set of rules called ITAR" All of this points to the deficiency of the existing commercial certificate authority system. The fact that organizations can easily purchase software specifically designed to subvert encrypted communication channels is proof that HTTPS security is an illusion. Kelly On 1/18/15, 12:31 PM, "William Waites" <wwaites () tardis ed ac uk> wrote:
On 18 Jan 2015 18:15:09 -0000, "John Levine" <johnl () iecc com> said: > I expect your users would fire you when they found you'd blocked > access to Google. Doesn't goog do certificate pinning anyways, at least in their web browser?
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- Re: HTTPS redirects to HTTP for monitoring, (continued)
- Re: HTTPS redirects to HTTP for monitoring William Herrin (Jan 20)
- Re: HTTPS redirects to HTTP for monitoring Ca By (Jan 18)
- Re: HTTPS redirects to HTTP for monitoring Ammar Zuberi (Jan 18)
- Re: HTTPS redirects to HTTP for monitoring nanog (Jan 18)
- Re: HTTPS redirects to HTTP for monitoring John Levine (Jan 18)
- Re: HTTPS redirects to HTTP for monitoring Ca By (Jan 18)
- Re: HTTPS redirects to HTTP for monitoring John R. Levine (Jan 18)
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- Re: HTTPS redirects to HTTP for monitoring Larry Sheldon (Jan 19)
- Re: HTTPS redirects to HTTP for monitoring John Levine (Jan 19)
- Re: HTTPS redirects to HTTP for monitoring Ammar Zuberi (Jan 18)
- Re: HTTPS redirects to HTTP for monitoring William Waites (Jan 18)
- Re: HTTPS redirects to HTTP for monitoring Kelly Setzer (Jan 18)
- Re: HTTPS redirects to HTTP for monitoring Matt Palmer (Jan 18)
- Re: HTTPS redirects to HTTP for monitoring Damian Menscher (Jan 19)
- Re: HTTPS redirects to HTTP for monitoring Ca By (Jan 18)
- Re: HTTPS redirects to HTTP for monitoring Geoffrey Keating (Jan 18)
- Re: HTTPS redirects to HTTP for monitoring Larry Sheldon (Jan 19)
