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Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion
From: Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 08:16:15 +0200
Hi, With RIPE you can get a /29 with no justification, so if you have any less it is because you did not bother logging in to ripe.net and hit the get more button. ARIN gives you the option to make a network scheme based on nibbles but RIPE does not, so do not go there. Why try to allocate by the bit at all? We all use internal routing protocols instead of static routing. The only concern is to avoid an excess amount of internal routes in your IGP. You do that by using an allocation size per site, so your local routers can do route aggregation before redistributing the routes. We have an allocation size of /42 per site. A site can have and usually have multiple /42 allocated. This size was chosen because we allocate a /26 of IPv4 per site (=6 bits per allocation or blocks of 64). We are a residual ISP and it is expected that each customer needs one /32 IPv4 and one /48 IPv6 prefix. Our allocation of /32 IPv4 and /48 IPv6 is approximately the same utilization. In fact we made an algorithm that can convert your IPv4 /32 to your IPv6 /48, so we avoid tracking two allocations per user. Our smallest access routers can handle about 30k routes. But long before we hit that, I expect we would add another layer of aggregation. The case of using a bit based allocation scheme is so you can avoid that database (or spreadsheet) keeping track of your allocations. But I found that you need that either way or you will go crazy. The ability to look at an allocation and say hmm digit 10 is between 8 and f, so that must be somewhere in [insert big city here]... well it does just not seem that useful. Check our reverse DNS if you want to know. Regards, Baldur
Current thread:
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion, (continued)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Karl Auer (Jul 08)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Mike Hammett (Jul 08)
- Re: Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion tqr2813d376cjozqap1l (Jul 08)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Karl Auer (Jul 08)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Paul Ferguson (Jul 08)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Dave Taht (Jul 08)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Mel Beckman (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Mike Hammett (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Ricky Beam (Jul 08)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Mark Andrews (Jul 08)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Baldur Norddahl (Jul 08)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Owen DeLong (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Tony Finch (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Mike Hammett (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Harald Koch (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Marco Teixeira (Jul 09)
- RE: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Matthew Huff (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Harald Koch (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Dave Taht (Jul 09)
- RE: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Matthew Huff (Jul 09)
- RE: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Tony Finch (Jul 09)
