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Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND
From: Nick Hilliard <nick () foobar org>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:24:43 +0100
On 23/06/2015 10:25, Mel Beckman wrote:
Why should your head explode? Possibly you’re overthinking the problem.
The problems don't relate to Harlan overthinking the problem. They relate to developers underthinking the problem and assuming that all clocks are monotonic and that certain rules apply, e.g. that there are 60 seconds in a minute, 86400 seconds in a day and so forth. Mostly applications are not time sensitive, but sometimes they are. When they are, and when the developer assumes something which isn't true, unexpected things might happen. assert()s can be triggered, time synchronisation lost with third party applications, unexpected and untested code paths could be used, etc. Blocking NTP at the NTP edge will probably work fine for most situations. Bear in mind that your NTP edge is not necessarily the same as your network edge. E.g. you might have internal GPS / radio sources which could unexpectedly inject the leap second. The larger the network, the more likely this is to happen. Most organisations have network fossils and ntp is an excellent source of these. I.e. systems which work away for years without any problems before one day accidentally triggering meltdown because some developer didn't understand the subtleties of clock monotonicity. Nick
Current thread:
- Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND, (continued)
- Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND Harlan Stenn (Jun 19)
- Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND Baldur Norddahl (Jun 19)
- Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND Harlan Stenn (Jun 19)
- Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND Mel Beckman (Jun 19)
- Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND Harlan Stenn (Jun 20)
- Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND Doug Barton (Jun 22)
- Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND Harlan Stenn (Jun 22)
- Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND Mel Beckman (Jun 23)
- Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND Harlan Stenn (Jun 23)
- Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND Mel Beckman (Jun 23)
- Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND Nick Hilliard (Jun 23)
- Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND shawn wilson (Jun 23)
- Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND Jared Mauch (Jun 23)
- Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND Nick Hilliard (Jun 23)
- Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND Harlan Stenn (Jun 23)
- Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND Matthew Huff (Jun 23)
- Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND Harlan Stenn (Jun 23)
- Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND Tore Anderson (Jun 23)
- Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND Philip Homburg (Jun 24)
- Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND Tony Finch (Jun 24)
- Re: REMINDER: LEAP SECOND Philip Homburg (Jun 24)
