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Re: /27 the new /24
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 16:04:02 -0400
On Oct 8, 2015, at 11:24 PM, Jeremy Austin <jhaustin () gmail com> wrote: On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 3:25 PM, James Jun <james () towardex com> wrote:If you want choices in your transit providers, you should get a transport circuit (dark, wave or EPL) to a nearby carrier hotel/data center. Once you do that, you will suddenly find that virtually almost everyone in the competitive IP transit market will provide you with dual-stacked IPv4/IPv6 service.The future is here, but it isn't evenly distributed yet. I'm in North America, but there are no IXPs in my *state*, let alone in my *continent* -- from an undersea fiber perspective. There is no truly competitive IP transit market within Alaska that I am aware of. Would love to be proved wrong. Heck, GCI and ACS (the two providers with such fiber) only directly peered a handful of years ago.
Alaska is in the same continent as Canda and the Contiguous US. VANIX (Vancouver), CIX (Calgary), Manitoba-IX (Winnipeg), WPGIX (WInnipeg), TORIX (Toronto), and an exchange in Montreal (I forget the name) exist as well as a few others in Canada (I think there’s even one out in the maritimes). There are tons of exchanges all over the contiguous US. I’m surprised that there isn’t yet an exchange point in Juneau or Anchorage, but that does, indeed, appear to be the case. Perhaps you should work with some other ISPs in your state to form one. According to this: http://www.alaskaunited.com <http://www.alaskaunited.com/> There is subsea fiber to several points in AK from Seattle and beyond. And on a continental basis, quite a bit of undersea fiber in other landing stations around the coastal areas of the contiguous 48.
If you are buying DIA circuit from some $isp to your rural location that you call "head-end" and are expecting to receive a competitive service, and support for IPv6, well, then your expectations are either unreasonable, ignorant or both.Interestingly both statewide providers *do* provide both IPv4 and IPv6 peering. The trick is to find a spot where there's true price competition. The 3 largest statewide ISPs have fiber that meets a mere three city blocks from one of my POPs, but there's no allowable IX. I'm looking at you, AT&T.
I’m not sure what you mean by “allowable IX”, to the best of my knowledge, anyone can build an IX anywhere. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: /27 the new /24, (continued)
- Re: /27 the new /24 David Barak via NANOG (Oct 08)
- Re: /27 the new /24 Christian de Larrinaga (Oct 08)
- Re: /27 the new /24 Mike (Oct 08)
- Re: /27 the new /24 Mark Andrews (Oct 08)
- Re: /27 the new /24 Mike (Oct 08)
- Re: /27 the new /24 James Jun (Oct 08)
- Re: /27 the new /24 Jason Baugher (Oct 08)
- Re: /27 the new /24 Mike Hammett (Oct 09)
- The continuing IPv6 discussion (was: /27 the new /24) Stephen Satchell (Oct 09)
- Re: /27 the new /24 Jeremy Austin (Oct 08)
- Re: /27 the new /24 Owen DeLong (Oct 09)
- Re: /27 the new /24 Jeremy Austin (Oct 09)
- Re: /27 the new /24 Mike Hammett (Oct 09)
- Re: /27 the new /24 Henrik Thostrup Jensen (Oct 12)
- Re: /27 the new /24 joel jaeggli (Oct 12)
- Re: /27 the new /24 Todd Underwood (Oct 12)
- Re: /27 the new /24 Joe Abley (Oct 12)
- Re: /27 the new /24 Royce Williams (Oct 12)
- Re: /27 the new /24 Christopher Morrow (Oct 12)
- Re: /27 the new /24 Todd Underwood (Oct 12)
- Re: /27 the new /24 Christopher Morrow (Oct 12)
