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Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase
From: "Majdi S. Abbas" <msa () latt net>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:04:15 -0500
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 02:08:50PM -0500, Allan Liska wrote:
In the United States that would the United States Naval Observatory (USNO) Master Clock (http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/). You can read more about it here: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/demetrios-matsakis-and-the-master-clock
One of the things I have learned as a time hobbyist is that if
something involves time, and you think there is a simple answer, you
are probably wrong. :)
USNO is our military time keeper -- NIST keeps time for civil
purposes, and while they coordinate to stay in reasonably close
proximity, even they don't agree. Even better, the GPS clocks are
run by (and corrections distributed) by the Air Force, not the Navy.
And they have made mistakes in recent memory.
From an international perspective, BIPM is responsible for UTC,
but it is only figured well after the fact. We distribute "UTC" via
NTP, but it's not true UTC since that is not figured in real time,
it's much, much coarser, and everyone's local views differ anyway.
For an idea just how many components there are, take a look
at BIPM's Circular T:
ftp://ftp2.bipm.org/pub/tai//Circular-T/cirthtm/cirt.347.html
But back to the point...while UTC is an international
time scale, individual national labs and institutions keep their
own views of it, and correct periodically...then they distribute
these timescales, and in some fashion we attempt to get a coarse
version of it onto the Internet in real time.
There is no one authority responsible for this, and you
may take time from any one (or more) of them that you choose.
And for this reason, there is no single authority for time
distribution on the Internet -- because there is none for the
world as a whole, either.
We /can/ have an authoritative system for something
like host naming, where it's comparatively easy to produce a
single authoritative source. Timing is not nearly such a
simple subject.
Cheers,
--msa
Current thread:
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase, (continued)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Royce Williams (Dec 22)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Harlan Stenn (Dec 22)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Laurent Dumont (Dec 22)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Philip Homburg (Dec 23)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Majdi S. Abbas (Dec 30)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Allan Liska (Dec 30)
- RE: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Emille Blanc (Dec 30)
- RE: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Allan Liska (Dec 30)
- RE: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Jeff McAdams (Dec 30)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Harlan Stenn (Dec 30)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Majdi S. Abbas (Dec 30)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Yury Shefer (Dec 20)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Royce Williams (Dec 20)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Royce Williams (Dec 20)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Harlan Stenn (Dec 20)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Rich Kulawiec (Dec 30)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 20)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Damian Menscher via NANOG (Dec 20)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Jad Boutros via NANOG (Dec 20)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Paul Gear (Dec 20)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Royce Williams (Dec 20)
