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RE: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare)


From: "Naslund, Steve" <SNaslund () medline com>
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 13:45:17 +0000

A DDoS attack is illegal.  In the United States it is considered as theft of service.  The legal construct used is that 
the DDoS attack is a theft of CPU cycles, compute resources, and power by other than the rightful owner for its 
intended purposes.

Steven Naslund
Chicago IL

-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 4:30 AM
To: Miles Fidelman
Cc: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare)

On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 22:55:54 -0400, Miles Fidelman said:
On 7/27/16 10:48 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
They just lost all respect from here. Would someone from USA please 
report these guys to the feds? What they are doing is outright 
criminal.
hyperbole.  it is not criminal.  you just don't happen to like it.

Actually, as someone pointed out, it might well be conspiracy - which 
is criminal.

In general, the conspiracy isn't criminal if the conspired act isn't criminal.
If you're trying to make a criminal conspiracy out of non-criminal acts, your best bet is probably finding a new way to 
abuse the RICO statutes.


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