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Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking?
From: John Curran <jcurran () arin net>
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 17:27:09 +0000
On Sep 12, 2016, at 12:08 PM, Scott Weeks <surfer () mauigateway com<mailto:surfer () mauigateway com>> wrote: Are the RIRs the internet police? Thank you Scott for posing that question… :-) As others have noted, ARIN does indeed revoke resources, but to be clear, this is generally due to fraudulent activities _related_ to the registry itself (i.e. if you commit fraud in the course of obtaining resources, ARIN will revoke those resources once we have determined the fraud beyond reasonable doubt; see <https://www.arin.net/resources/fraud/index.html>) The specific circumstances raised (of a party announcing an AS# which they do not control) can only happen if the others in the industry allow such, and therefore it is entirely within the community to address. While It is possible that some peering and/or transit agreements have been broken (for example, those agreements which state that the party should only announce routes that they have permission to do so), but in any case, the act of announcing someone else’s number resources stems from usage that the community is allowing to occur, either thru action or inaction, and is not any fraudulent act with respect the Internet number registry itself. ARIN is not a law enforcement entity (although we do work with them on occasion with regard to registry fraud), and it really is up to the industry to “police” Internet routing to the extent necessary and desirable to keep the Internet running. Thanks, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN
Current thread:
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking?, (continued)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Paras Jha (Sep 12)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Mel Beckman (Sep 12)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Paras Jha (Sep 12)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Jean-Francois Mezei (Sep 12)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Hugo Slabbert (Sep 12)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Jean-Francois Mezei (Sep 12)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 12)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Jean-Francois Mezei (Sep 12)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Hugo Slabbert (Sep 12)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? jim deleskie (Sep 13)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Scott Weeks (Sep 12)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Blake Hudson (Sep 12)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? John Curran (Sep 12)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Mel Beckman (Sep 12)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Scott Weeks (Sep 12)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Hugo Slabbert (Sep 12)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Blake Hudson (Sep 12)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Scott Weeks (Sep 12)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Bryant Townsend (Sep 13)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Ca By (Sep 13)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Matt Freitag (Sep 13)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Ryan, Spencer (Sep 13)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Blake Hudson (Sep 13)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Ca By (Sep 13)
(Thread continues...)
