Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

["Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG" <nanog () nanog org>]

> "I don't see why there should not be a way to know who is publishing data
on the Internet.  In almost all other forms of communication, there is some
accountability for the origination of information."

...in every other form of communication, the phrase "get a warrant" comes
to mind.
Except on the internet where we require the information to be public
so that anyone and their dog can view it without a warrant.

> "When you get into the business of "protecting" people from their own
"oppressive" governments, you are also protecting "enemies and criminals"
from another perspective."

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary
Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

-A

On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 12:33 PM Naslund, Steve <SNaslund () medline com>
wrote:

> I don't see why there should not be a way to know who is publishing data
> on the Internet.  In almost all other forms of communication, there is some
> accountability for the origination of information.  Newspaper publishers
> are known, radio stations are usually licensed and publicly known,
> television is licensed as well.  Your phone and Internet traffic is
> available to the government and law enforcement.  People need to be held
> legally accountable for the information they present to the public
> otherwise you would have absolutely no recourse in the event that you were
> slandered, scammed, or otherwise harmed by this information.  People being
> scared of their government is a real thing, however it is not up to the
> Internet to protect people from their own governments, that is a political
> problem not a technical one.  Always think of the negative side of the
> argument.  If a website was distributing unauthorized compromising photos
> of your children would you want them to be completely anonymous?
>
> Think of how aggravated we all are with the spam we receive every day and
> how much you like spoofed caller ID data when you talk about anonymity.
>
>
> Publishing information for access by the entire public should have some
> sort of accountability with it.
>
> When you get into the business of "protecting" people from their own
> "oppressive" governments, you are also protecting "enemies and criminals"
> from another perspective.  Most all nation states would have the ability to
> track the communications to their source in any case so all you are really
> doing is protecting the data from the public.
>
> It would appear to me that the ICANN proposal is nothing more than a means
> to monetize what used to be public data.  Why should Google have all the
> fun?
>
> Steven Naslund
> Chicago IL
>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 2:11 PM
> To: Tei
> Cc: nanog () nanog org
> Subject: Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?
>
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> On April 20, 2018 at 12:03 oscar.vives () gmail com (Tei) wrote:
>  > Maybe a good balance for whois is to include organization information
>  > so I know where a website is hosted, but not personal information, so
>  > I can't show in their house and steal their dog.
>  >
>  > I feel uneasy about having my phone available to literally everyone on
>  > the internet.
>
> There are various privacy options available when one registers a
> domain, generally a matter of checking a box and usually free.
>
>  >
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