Re: Peering with abusers...good or bad?

[Bryan Holloway <bryan () shout net>]

On 3/2/18 5:29 PM, Ca By wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 2:13 PM Matthew Petach <mpetach () netflight com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 4:13 PM, Dan Hollis <goemon () sasami anime net>
> > wrote:
> > > OVH does not suprise me in the least.
> > >
> > > Maybe this is finally what it will take to get people to de-peer them.
> >
> > If I de-peer them, I pay my upstream to carry the
> > attack traffic.
>
> Your isp will do rtbh
>
> Your peers wont


Some public IXs support RTBH ... Equinix, DE-CIX, to name two ... PNIs 
is a different story.

> > If I maintain peering with them, the attack traffic is free.
> >
> > It would seem the economics work the other way around.
> >
> > It would be more cost effective for me to identify the largest sources
> > of attacks, and reach out to directly peer with them, to avoid paying
> > an upstream to carry the traffic, if I'm going to end up throwing it
> > away anyhow.