Re: Internet diameter?

[Casey Russell <crussell () kanren net>]

It's not exactly a measurement of "user to content" but CAIDA has swarms of
Raspberry Pi nodes all over the world, that constantly measure... well, a
lot of things, but they continually also monitor traceroute paths to each
other.  If you're looking for a "average length from any one node to any
other node on the Internet" you'd likely find some good data points here.

https://www.caida.org/projects/ark/statistics/

Sincerely,
Casey Russell
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On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 11:10 AM Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 8:48 PM Hal Murray <
> hgm+nanog () ip-64-139-1-69 sjc megapath net> wrote:
>
> > Keith Medcalf  said:
> > > "just static content" would be more accurate ...
> >
> >   and using http rather than https
> >
> > > There were many attempts at this by Johhny-cum-lately ISPs back in the
> > 90's
> > > -- particularly Telco and Cableco's -- with their "transparent poxies".
> > > Eventually they discovered that it was more cost efficient to actually
> > > provide the customer with what the customer had purchased.
> >
> > One of the complications in this area is an extra layer of logging which
> > could
> > turn into privacy invasion.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure it was Comcast, but a quick search didn't find a good
> > reference.  Many years ago, there were a lot of complaints when customers
>
> did you mean the 'sandvine experiment' that happened ~10 yrs back?
> or did you mean the plan verizon had to proxy all http/https traffic from
> consumer (fios/dsl) links through their gear so they could replace ad
> content and such?
> or did you mean the various (barefruit/nominim/paxfire) dns fake-answer
> companies that dropped your customer on their "search platform" for
> monetization?
>
> fairly much all of those are a wreck for consumer privacy :(
>
>
> > discovered that their transparent proxy web site traffic was getting
> > logged.
> > Comcast said they weren't using it for anything beyond normal operations
> > work,
> > but nobody believed them.  Shortly after that, they gave up on proxying.
> >
> > I'm sure the general reputation of modern Telcos and Cablecos for privacy
> > invasion didn't help.
> it's a rough business to be in, they say... but invading privacy of their
> users makes things seem a heck of a lot worse.
>
>
> > --
> > These are my opinions.  I hate spam.