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Re: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test


From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:40:50 -0400

It's likely worth noting that this specific test was of IPAWS (Integrated
Public Alert and Warning System), a system designed to integrate the
Emergency Alert System, National Warning System, Wireless Emergency Alerts,
and NOAA Weather Alerts.

It's not intended to be cell phone only or replace anything; it's intended
to unify all the pre-existing methods together. This was just the first
time cell phones were included in a nationwide test.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 11:15 AM Naslund, Steve <SNaslund () medline com>
wrote:

I agree 100% and also have noticed that severe weather systems tend to
more severe in rural areas due to either open spaces (the plains) or trees
(forested areas) doing more damage.  I can tell you from living the in
Midwest that the storms in Iowa and Nebraska are way worse than the ones
that hit Chicago.  A weather guy I know told me it has something to do with
convective heat rising from major cities which is why you rarely see
tornados hitting downtown Chicago and New York.  I have noticed that for
some reason local weather alerts seem to be more reliable than the national
level tests on cellular.  Don't know if it has to do with shear volume or
what.  Also, like I said earlier in rural areas you are less likely to run
into a bystander that knows what is going on.

Steven Naslund
Chicago IL


How quickly we forget.  Puerto Rico's catastrophe was only a year ago.
Per capita fatalities in rural areas are usually higher than cities after
a disaster.  Telecommunications are even more important in rural areas
because you have fewer disaster response resources than in cities.
Rural areas receive warnings later, have fewer emergency responders,
fewer
advanced trauma hospitals. There are more neighbors helping neighbors in
cities, and more potential sources of help in densely populated areas.

Telecommunication providers are less likely to spend money hardening
infrastructure in rural areas, because there is less business.  Its easy
to find alternative telecommunications in New York City. Its hard to find
backup telecommunications in Idaho.

A nation-wide WEA and EAS system helps warn people in both cities and
rural areas. But they still depend on carriers and broadcasters. If there
are no backup batteries in cell towers, or backup transmitters for
broadcasters, you end up with communication blackouts like in Puerto Rico
for months.



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