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Re: Contacts wanted: OVH, DigitalOcean, and Microsoft (Deutschland)
From: David Hubbard <dhubbard () dino hostasaurus com>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 00:33:02 +0000
On 3/19/19, 8:23 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Ronald F. Guilmette" <nanog-bounces () nanog org on behalf of rfg ()
tristatelogic com> wrote:
In message <CAL9Qcx7=-eTCJ7yGDT7oO2tkAJGOY3YMtYrtx5A-qH=-gN6vRg () mail gmail com>,
Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:
>Calling everyone an idiot in the midst of Endless Pontification isn't
>really a recipe for success.
I did not call "everyone" an idiot. I'm quite completely sure that there
are innumerable people in all of the referenced companies who are consumate
and hardworking professionals who excel at ther jobs. I do believe however,
based on considerable experience and much hard evidence, that the abuse
handling departnments at OVH and DigitalOcean, and indeed at essentially
-every- sizable hosting company are less than entirely well staffed, less
than entirely well trained, less than entirely well funded, and often
inadequately effective, either due to their limited willingness or their
limited authority, as circumscribed by management, when it comes to the
execution of their assigned duties. The abuse handling function at *every*
Internet company is the ugly stepchild, ignored whenever possible, and
typically starved of resources by management whose overriding consideration
is this quarter's P&L statement, and by extension, the nearest upcoming
executive bonus period.
Regards,
rfg
Why not just drop any prefixes from the respective ASN's? We had to do that with OVH after the endless attacks coming
from their networks, and lack of abuse response. OVH really loves to shift the abuse around to new prefixes; I got
tired of spending time staying ahead of it.
Current thread:
- Contacts wanted: OVH, DigitalOcean, and Microsoft (Deutschland) Ronald F. Guilmette (Mar 18)
- Re: Contacts wanted: OVH, DigitalOcean, and Microsoft (Deutschland) Dovid Bender (Mar 18)
- Re: Contacts wanted: OVH, DigitalOcean, and Microsoft (Deutschland) Christian Kuhtz via NANOG (Mar 18)
- Re: Contacts wanted: OVH, DigitalOcean, and Microsoft (Deutschland) Nikolas Geyer (Mar 18)
- Re: Contacts wanted: OVH, DigitalOcean, and Microsoft (Deutschland) Ronald F. Guilmette (Mar 18)
- Re: Contacts wanted: OVH, DigitalOcean, and Microsoft (Deutschland) Christian Kuhtz via NANOG (Mar 18)
- Re: Contacts wanted: OVH, DigitalOcean, and Microsoft (Deutschland) Tom Beecher (Mar 19)
- RE: Contacts wanted: OVH, DigitalOcean, and Microsoft (Deutschland) Ray Orsini (Mar 19)
- RE: Contacts wanted: OVH, DigitalOcean, and Microsoft (Deutschland) Jack Barrett (Appia) (Mar 19)
- Re: Contacts wanted: OVH, DigitalOcean, and Microsoft (Deutschland) Ronald F. Guilmette (Mar 19)
- Re: Contacts wanted: OVH, DigitalOcean, and Microsoft (Deutschland) David Hubbard (Mar 19)
- Re: Contacts wanted: OVH, DigitalOcean, and Microsoft (Deutschland) Rich Kulawiec (Mar 27)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Contacts wanted: OVH, DigitalOcean, and Microsoft (Deutschland) Ronald F. Guilmette (Mar 18)
- Re: Contacts wanted: OVH, DigitalOcean, and Microsoft (Deutschland) Stephen Satchell (Mar 18)
- Re: Contacts wanted: OVH, DigitalOcean, and Microsoft (Deutschland) Jeff McAdams (Mar 19)
- Re: Contacts wanted: OVH, DigitalOcean, and Microsoft (Deutschland) Rich Kulawiec (Mar 19)
- Re: Contacts wanted: OVH, DigitalOcean, and Microsoft (Deutschland) John Peach (Mar 19)
- Re: Contacts wanted: OVH, DigitalOcean, and Microsoft (Deutschland) Nikolas Geyer (Mar 19)
- Re: Contacts wanted: OVH, DigitalOcean, and Microsoft (Deutschland) Eric Kuhnke (Mar 19)
- Re: Contacts wanted: OVH, DigitalOcean, and Microsoft (Deutschland) Rich Kulawiec (Mar 20)
- Re: Contacts wanted: OVH, DigitalOcean, and Microsoft (Deutschland) Ronald F. Guilmette (Mar 19)
