Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing"

[Karsten Thomann via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>]

Von: nanog () radu-adrian feurdean net
Gesendet: 20. Oktober 2019 12:45
An: nanog () nanog org
Betreff: Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing"




On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, at 16:42, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> Executive summary: it's SDN for BGP. Centralizing Internet routing,
> what could go wrong? (As the authors say, "One reason is there is no
> single entity that has a big picture of what is going on, no
> manager". I wonder who will be Internet's manager.)
>
> Otherwise, an impressive amount of WTF. My favorite: "while
> communication by servers ___on the ground___ might take hundreds of
> milliseconds, in the cloud the same operation may take only one
> millisecond from one machine to another" I thought that universities
> were full of serious people, but university of Massachusets may be an
> exception?

What I find to be the worst part is in the first phrase : "... have received a three-year, $1.2 million grant to 
develop and test ..."
That makes 200k$/year/person. I find it quite a lot for bu**sh*t-bingo content.



[KT]
Maybe someone should ask the NSF how they are spending their money...

Some things I "like" :
"Shifting interdomain traffic control to the cloud to avoid routers on the ground and “heavy duty switching,” Gao says, 
"

"The traffic still has to go through the routers on the ground, "

So we don't need routers on the ground, but the routers "on the ground" have still to forward the traffic? 

"He adds that while communication by servers on the ground might take hundreds of milliseconds, in the cloud the same 
operation may take only one millisecond from one machine to another."
Yeah sure, but how they are providing that information to the routers forwarding the data? They are not in the cloud? 
Or are they? (First citation)

"“It’s orders of magnitude faster, and in the cloud we can easily afford more bandwidth resources, too."
Still not sure what the are trying to tell me...
Is everything forwarded through the cloud, or not?
As in other sentences they are only writing about decision-making... 
"All these factors make outsourcing the decision-making to the cloud more advantageous.” 

So why we need that high bandwidth in the cloud, if it is only control-plane traffic?