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Re: power to the internet


From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 22:12:08 -0500

I'm familiar with the Sir Adam Beck plant, I grew up in and live in Niagara
County.

Not everything produced by the NYPA goes to munis. There is a lot sold
direct to businesses; last I checked roughly 5% of the generation from the
Niagara Power Project is allocated for businesses in WNY in a 30 mile ring.
( Although a sizeable chunk of that goes back to the wholesale markets
because there aren't enough qualified companies to take it. )

I can guarantee that some of that power ended up with you. Every commercial
supplier in NY buys from the wholesale market at some point, and a lot of
NYPA power ends up there.

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 6:04 PM John Levine <johnl () iecc com> wrote:

In article <CAL9Qcx5PkJ1RZqjrUiKoGe=1+oOwSc6zkhPFemJGn_EV2ur=
Qw () mail gmail com> you write:
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It helps that we have a 2.6GW pumped storage generation facility near
Niagara Falls. :)

It does, but all that power goes to the munis, not the commercial
company that supplies me.  We do import a lot of hydro power from
Quebec.  There's another power plant the same size on the other side
of the river that provides power for Toronto.


On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 5:05 PM Scott Weeks <surfer () mauigateway com>
wrote:


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I don't know where you live, but I pay around 38 cents/KWh. Depending
on your rate, that can go up to 53 cents/KWh during peak times.

I live in upstate New York where I pay about 8c/kwh and a fixed $15/mo
connection charge.  We have day/night rates available but they're not
very
different for retail customers.  I get a slight discount due to credits
from remote net metering at a nearby solar farm.


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