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Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that


From: Bryan Holloway <bryan () shout net>
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 22:08:26 +0100

Whoa. Gandalf.

I worked on one of those once and it was craaaaay-zee. Customer bought one, and I had to get it to interoperate with an Ascend 400. It took a lot of fiddle-farting, but I did eventually get it to work.

Fun times.


On 1/27/20 8:00 PM, Jamie Bowden via NANOG wrote:
That was the other half of going to Extended Super Frame.  Lyle talked about AMI going away below, but didn't mention 
what replaced it (Binary 8bit Zero Substitution for the kids on the list).

I don't know about the other ILECs out there, but I don't know if Verizon will even provision a T1 anymore.  I know you can still get a PRI 
(that's how our phone systems interface with the PSTN), but if we needed a CT1 instead, I don't know that they'd be able (willing) to 
deliver it.  I know you can't get a BRI.  We moved offices a few years ago and we basically lost the ability to use our STEs for anything but voice 
as we couldn't get BRIs delivered to the new space.

Speaking of ISDN, I had equipment that would support 56k ISDN, but never saw it provisioned (was that Switch56?  Or am I 
mixing up FR and ISDN?).  All of the ISDN circuits I dealt with were standard 2B+D (BRI), or 23B+D (PRI).  I think the 
oldest (and weirdest) piece of gear I personally worked on was a Gandalf ISDN router that was supporting a US Navy site to 
site connection.  Which makes me a newcomer to The Internet compared to a lot of people on this list, I'm sure.



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