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Re: Internet operations during pandemics


From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 17:50:20 -0400

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 1:47 PM Seth Mattinen <sethm () rollernet us> wrote:

On 3/19/20 9:51 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
During this time, however, 'work from home' technology hasn't really
progressed along the same path, has it? So, "get to the vpn" is still
largely a process of getting packets across the wide internet and to
small locations (your enterprise), there's little relief in site for
that model:(


IMO that's where local peering comes in, but the big ISPs like AT&T and
Charter/Spectrum (the two national providers in my area) are loathe to
peer anywhere except a few big central locations, if at all. It's not a

peer or transit? or did you mean crossing between att/comcast ?
(assume they are SFP not customer/transit)

technical problem (i.e. Charter has a 10% utilized 10Ge and unused 1Ge
switch trunks in my facility as custs cancel due to he.net moving in),
it's a policy problem.

I expect charter (in your example) would happily sign you up to a 1g
or 10g port that's vacated there, right?
the difference/question is about 'settlement free' or 'less than
standard transit' access?

So we end up with setups like colo customers not using Charter at the
colo because they can get better pricing options, then suddenly they
have remote workers on high latency cable connections at home since for
that home cable connection to talk to the colo server traffic has to
take some crazy long out of state boomerang path that a simple peering
connection would solve.

yea, this is exactly the sort of problem I was thinking about...
I wonder if enterprises pulling their VPN from 'on prem' to 'deploy in
"equinix" (pick your xerox copy of same)' with a private network
backhaul to their prem(s) might actually make things better? Might
that allow them to deploy more servers more easily? (ship to "equinix"
ask remote hands to deploy...)

That and some reasonable answer for 'connect to the IX, get some local
peering to networks where your employees are...' etc.


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