Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

[Haudy Kazemi via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>]

Using the sample bill on the GA power website you linked, I see a bottom
line price of $76.17 for 606 kWh delivered to the customer. That is
effectively 12.57 cents per kWh.

Utilities (both investor owned and coops) have a multitude of ways of
hiding the effective price in a variety of fixed and variable fees not
included in the nominal 'energy' fee. These include mandatory fixed
connection fees and also fuel cost recovery fees that are tied to
consumption.



On Wed, Feb 17, 2021, 12:01 Milt Aitken <milt () net2atlanta com> wrote:

> The numbers below are not correct.
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> Here in GA, we pay much lower rates than those listed, somewhere around 7
> cents/kwh after taxes.
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> https://www.georgiapower.com/residential/billing-and-rate-plans/pricing-and-rate-plans/residential-service.html
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> *From:* NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+milt=net2atlanta.com () nanog org] *On
> Behalf Of *Rod Beck
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2021 12:43 PM
> *To:* Sean Donelan
> *Cc:* nanog () nanog org
> *Subject:* Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
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> Using residential pricing for a data center is a bit odd, isn't? Remember,
> European businesses can reclaim VAT and a European data center would access
> much lower tariffs than a European household. And residential pricing
> includes VAT. Germany is an outlier because about 50% of the 30 cents is
> taxes and surcharges.
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> *From:* Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2021 4:15 PM
> *To:* Rod Beck <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com>
> *Cc:* nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org>
> *Subject:* Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
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> The price of electricity is a major component of the decision where data
> centers operators choose to build large data centers.
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> Total electric price to end consumer (residential).  Although industrial
> electric prices are usually lower, its easier to compare residential
> prices across countries.
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> Europe (Residential):
> Lowest Bulgaria: EU 9.97 cents/kWh (USD 12.0 cents/kWh)
> Highest Germany: EU 30.88 cents/kWh (USD 37.33 cents/kWh)
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> Average: EU 20.5 cents/kWh (USD 25.2 cents/kWh)
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> USA (Residential):
> Lowest Idaho: USD 9.67 cents/kWh (EU 8.3 cents/kWh)
> Highest Hawaii: USD 28.84 cents/kWh (EU 24.07 cents/kWh)
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> Average: USD 13.25 cents/kWh (EU 10.79 cents/kWh)
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> Texas is slightly below the US average at
> Texas: USD 12.2 cents/kWh (EU 9.96 cents/kWh)