Re: AWS S3 DNS load balancer

[Andras Toth <diosbejgli () gmail com>]

AWS or S3 is not the only service where you will see a single IP returned
for a DNS query, www.microsoft.com and www.apple.com (via Akamai) do the
same - see further below.

When you look up <bucketname>.s3.amazonaws.com you get back an answer that
directs you to the correct region where the S3 bucket is located. For
example test.s3.amazonaws.com points to s3-w.us-east-1.amazonaws.com
because the bucket exists in the us-east-1 region.

The endpoints are listed at
https://docs.aws.amazon.com/general/latest/gr/s3.html and the DNS format is
described at
https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/latest/userguide/WebsiteEndpoints.html
.


$ dig www.microsoft.com
...
;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.microsoft.com. 1281 IN CNAME www.microsoft.com-c-3.edgekey.net.
www.microsoft.com-c-3.edgekey.net. 664 IN CNAME
www.microsoft.com-c-3.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net.
www.microsoft.com-c-3.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net. 664 IN CNAME
e13678.dscb.akamaiedge.net.
e13678.dscb.akamaiedge.net. 19 IN A 23.40.73.65

$ dig www.apple.com
...
;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.apple.com. 368 IN CNAME www.apple.com.edgekey.net.
www.apple.com.edgekey.net. 8138 IN CNAME
www.apple.com.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net.
www.apple.com.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net. 2168 IN CNAME
e6858.dscx.akamaiedge.net.
e6858.dscx.akamaiedge.net. 14 IN A 23.1.23.66


Disclaimer: I work for AWS.

Regards,
Andras


On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 2:40 AM Deepak Jain <deepak () ai net> wrote:

> I've just taken a squiz at an S3-based website we have, and via the S3 URL
> it is a CNAME with a 60-secod TTL pointing at a set of A records with
> 5-second TTLs.
>
> Any one dig returns the CNAME and a single IP address:
>
> dig our-domain.s3-website-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com.
> our-domain.s3-website-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com.     14 IN CNAME s3-
> website-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com.
> s3-website-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com. 5 IN A 52.95.134.145
>
> If the query is multiply repeated, the returned IP address changes,
> roughly every five seconds.
>
> What's interesting is the name attached to the A records, which does not
> include "our-domain". It seems to be a record pointing to ALL S3 websites
> in the region. And all of the addresses I saw reverse-resolve to that one
> name. So there is definitely some under-the-bonnet magic discrimination
> going on.
>
> In Route53 the picture is very different, with the published website host
> name (think "our-domain.com.au") resolving to four IP addresses that are
> all returned in the response to a single dig query. There is an A-ALIAS (a
> non-standard AWS record type) that points to a CloudFront distribution that
> has the relevant S3 bucket as its origin.
>
> Using the CNAME bypasses the CloudFront distribution unless steps are
> taken to forbid direct access to the bucket. It would be usual to use (and
> enforce) access via CloudFront, if for no other reason than to provide for
> HTTPS access.
>
> ---
>
> So, depending on what query you make... you get very different answers.
> For example. If you try s3.amazon.com you get a CNAME to a
> rewrite.amazon.com which seems reasonable for any subdomain request that
> they would have a better response for.
>
> I don't remember, and they may be moving to deterministic subdomains as
> you've shown above, and only "legacy" uses go to s3.amazonaws.com. I
> remember hearing a big uproar about it. Perhaps an AWS person will chime in
> with some color on this.
>
> So deterministic subdomain to a group of relatively deterministic
> endpoints, even round-robin, makes sense to me as in... "usual in the
> practice of the art." Even if those systems end up being load balancers for
> other systems behind them.
>
> The s3.amazonaws.com is different than that. I'm guessing that no one
> (else) uses this sort of single IP from a pool trick and therefore it's not
> standard. Further, given that AWS appears to be moving *back* to the
> traditional way of doing things, there must be undesirable limitations to
> this model.
>
> [just spitballing here]
>
> Deepak