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Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections


From: Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2021 09:25:02 -0400

I think going to other countries gets us a different market (ie less video
content/quality, probably significantly less upload due to 384k rates,
etc).  I suppose if you're trying to push an agenda it might be a good
idea, but I can't imagine a reason we'd want to compare other
countries *_*usage_
to the US.  Just my opinion and thoughts.

The only "definition of broadband" we get is from the FCC which trickles
down to the states.

Josh Luthman
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On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 12:14 PM Livingood, Jason <
Jason_Livingood () comcast com> wrote:

Does not need to be – just a suggestion based on the thinking that these
locales may have more dense populations and thus perhaps higher FTTH
penetration for a longer period of time. But the data from any network will
certainly have some interest.



*From: *Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>
*Date: *Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 11:36
*To: *"Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood () cable comcast com>
*Cc: *Abhi Devireddy <abhi () devireddy com>, "nanog () nanog org" <
nanog () nanog org>
*Subject: *[EXTERNAL] Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections



Why does it have to be non-US?



Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 9:20 AM Livingood, Jason via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
wrote:

I think the 10:1 ratio might have been great 5 years ago, when usage was
more asymmetric. The last 5 yrs. have definitely changed the profile of a
typical home user. A 4M upload pipe, will hit bottlenecks with all the
collaboration that is happening remotely.

I'm not sure ratio is the right thing to focus upon - especially as
asymmetry has grown the last few years due to the rising using of streaming
video services and greater availability of 4K-resolution content. Ratio
seems like more a reflection of current applications and usage patterns.
(It would be fascinating to see a non-US FTTH provider that was 1G/1G or
greater share their actual usage ratio.)

JL



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