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Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge
From: Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 18:24:54 -0700
On Oct 11, 2021, at 13:57 , Matthew Walster <matthew () walster org> wrote: On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 at 21:05, Matthew Petach <mpetach () netflight com <mailto:mpetach () netflight com>> wrote: I think it would be absolutely *stunning* for content providers to turn the model on its head; use a bittorrent like model for caching and serving content out of subscribers homes at recalcitrant ISPs, so that data doesn't come from outside, it comes out of the mesh within the eyeball network, with no clear place for the ISP to stick a $$$ bill to. Ignoring for the moment that P2P is inherently difficult to stream with (you're usually downloading chunks in parallel, and with devices like Smart TVs etc you don't really have the storage to do so anyway) there's also the problem that things like BitTorrent don't know network topology and therefore only really increases the cross-sectional bandwidth required.
A 4K 2 hour movie is about 40GB. Most modern smart TVs around 32GB of RAM and can probably devote about 20GB of that to buffering a stream, so yeah, that should actually be doable. While torrent-like distribution isn’t particularly good for the eyeball provider, it can be good for getting content to eyeballs under some circumstances regardless of how bad it is for said network. Unfortunately, it’s not good at knowing how bad it’s being for the network and it’s also not good at detecting the circumstances when it’s good for the end user or not.
Not to mention that it has been tried before, and didn't work then either.
Yep. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge, (continued)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Matthew Petach (Oct 01)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Laura Smith via NANOG (Oct 01)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Mark Tinka (Oct 01)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Doug Barton (Oct 10)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Mark Tinka (Oct 10)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Doug Barton (Oct 10)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Sabri Berisha (Oct 10)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Mark Tinka (Oct 11)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Matthew Petach (Oct 11)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Matthew Walster (Oct 11)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Owen DeLong via NANOG (Oct 11)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Jason Iannone (Oct 12)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Mark Tinka (Oct 12)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Matthew Walster (Oct 12)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Mark Tinka (Oct 12)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Owen DeLong via NANOG (Oct 12)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Owen DeLong via NANOG (Oct 11)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Mark Tinka (Oct 12)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Tom Beecher (Oct 12)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge Matthew Petach (Oct 12)
- Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge scott (Oct 12)
