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Re: DNS pulling BGP routes?


From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 14:13:37 -0500 (CDT)

" to give priority" 


Assuming priority is given. 




It's going to be very rare for their to be both only one ISP and no other ISPs able to be motivated to be present. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
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Midwest-IX 
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----- Original Message -----

From: "Michael Thomas" <mike () mtcc com> 
To: nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 1:51:50 PM 
Subject: Re: DNS pulling BGP routes? 


On 10/18/21 11:09 AM, Sabri Berisha wrote: 

The term "network neutrality" was invented by people who want to control 
a network owned and paid for by someone else. 

Your version of "unreasonable" and my version of "unreasonable" are on the 
opposite end of the spectrum. I think it is unreasonable for you to tell me 
how to run configure my routers, and you think it is unreasonable for me 
to configure my routers that I pay for the way that I want to. 

Yeahbut, for the last mile that network is often a monopoly or maybe a 
duopoly if you're lucky. If streaming provider 1 pays ISP to give 
priority over streaming provider 2 -- maybe by severely rate limiting 
provider 2 -- the people who get screwed are end users without a way to 
vote with their feet. That sort of monopolistic behavior is bad for end 
users. Mostly I want ISP's to be dumb bit providers and stay out of 
shady deals that enrich ISP's at my expense. And if it takes regulation 
to do that, bring it. 

Mike 




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