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Re: Network visibility
From: Miles Fidelman <mfidelman () meetinghouse net>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 14:47:18 -0400
Since we seem to be getting pedantic...There's "The (capital I) Internet" - which, most date to the flag day, and the "Public Internet" (the Internet after policies changed and allowed commercial & public use over the NSFnet backbone - in 1992f, as I recall).
Then there's the more general notion of "internetworking" - of which there was a considerable amount of experimental work going on, in parallel with TCP/IP. And of (small i) "internets" - essentially any Catenet style network-of-networks.
Miles Fidelman Mel Beckman wrote:
Michael, “Looking into” isn’t “is” :) -melOn Oct 20, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote: On 10/20/21 8:26 AM, Mel Beckman wrote:Pedantically, IP is 40 years old as of last month. What you're talking about is the flag day. People including myself were looking into internet protocols well before the flag day.Mark,As long as we’re being pedantic, January 1, 1983 is considered the official birthday of the Internet, when TCP/IP first let different kinds of computers on different networks talk to each other.It’s 2021, hence the Internet is /less/ than, not more than, 40 years old. Given your mathematical skills, I put no stock in your claim that we still can’t “buy an NMS that just works.” :)Mike
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Current thread:
- Re: Network visibility, (continued)
- Re: Network visibility Mel Beckman (Oct 21)
- Re: Network visibility Owen DeLong via NANOG (Oct 21)
- Re: Network visibility Miles Fidelman (Oct 21)
- Re: Network visibility Mel Beckman (Oct 21)
- Re: Network visibility Jay R. Ashworth (Oct 21)
- Re: Network visibility Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 22)
- Re: Network visibility Miles Fidelman (Oct 22)
- Re: Network visibility bzs (Oct 21)
- Re: Network visibility Michael Thomas (Oct 20)
- Re: Network visibility Mel Beckman (Oct 20)
- Re: Network visibility Miles Fidelman (Oct 20)
- RE: Network visibility Kain, Becki (.) (Oct 20)
- Re: Network visibility Jay Hennigan (Oct 20)
- Re: Network visibility scott (Oct 20)
- Re: Network visibility Michael Thomas (Oct 20)
- Re: Network visibility james.cutler () consultant com (Oct 20)
- Re: Network visibility Michael Thomas (Oct 20)
- Re: Network visibility bzs (Oct 20)
- Re: Network visibility Owen DeLong via NANOG (Oct 21)
- Re: Network visibility Brian Johnson (Oct 20)
