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Re: What do you think about the "cloudification" of mobile?


From: Brielle <bruns () 2mbit com>
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 08:17:21 -0700

Or, when someone dies because their cell phone doesn’t work and can’t do a simple 911 call anymore when AWS has yet 
another outage for 2 days.

All those pesky side effects of removing certain functionality that was once handled locally…

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:11 AM, Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:


For some folk, the risk of money cost outweighs the risk of loss of
direct operational control.

Those folks also tend to learn hard lessons about what happens when the Magic Cloud provider fails in a way that 
isn't possible to anticipate because it's all black box. 

Saving 12 months of opex $ sounds great, except when you lose 18 months of opex $ in 2 days completely outside of 
your ability to control. 

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 9:46 AM Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote:


On 1/26/22 16:41, Randy Bush wrote:

s/de-risk/re-risk/

it's just a different risk

I should have finished that sentence with "de-risk their infrastructure 
spend", because the actual risk is in having to spend money upfront to 
build the network.

For some folk, the risk of money cost outweighs the risk of loss of 
direct operational control.

Mark <= who run way from a suggestion to run iBGP route reflectors in 
AWS :-).

Mark.

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