Re: "Permanent" DST

[Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>]

> They don't want their names on it when what happened in the 70s happens
> again. The effect of setting everything to DST and staying there is that in
> the winter, especially in the norther latitude it will be pitch dark during
> most of the morning when children get picked up at school bus stops. When
> the tragedy happens again, and it will, they will end up undoing this
> again...

Or, perhaps, schools just adjust times a little bit to accommodate.

Also, I live in upstate NY, and even with the current time implementation,
there was plenty of times that I was out for the bus when it was dark
already. I don't mean to sound like 'when I was a kid, uphill, both ways'
here, but I certainly can't find any references to a massive uptake in kids
getting doinked by cars at dark bus stops in that 70s experiment.

On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 6:09 PM Matthew Huff <mhuff () ox com> wrote:

> They don't want their names on it when what happened in the 70s happens
> again. The effect of setting everything to DST and staying there is that in
> the winter, especially in the norther latitude it will be pitch dark during
> most of the morning when children get picked up at school bus stops. When
> the tragedy happens again, and it will, they will end up undoing this
> again...
>
> History repeats itself, first as a tragedy, then as a farce...
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+mhuff=ox.com () nanog org> On Behalf Of Jay R.
> Ashworth
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 5:30 PM
> To: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
> Cc: nanog () nanog org list <nanog () nanog org>
> Subject: Re: "Permanent" DST
>
> Oh.  This was "Unanimous Consent"?  AKA "I want to vote for this, but *I
> do not want to be held responsible for having voted for it when it blows
> up*?"
>
> I'd missed that; thanks.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tom Beecher" <beecher () beecher cc>
> > To: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuhnke () gmail com>
> > Cc: "nanog () nanog org list" <nanog () nanog org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 5:04:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: "Permanent" DST
>
> > I would say if something passes the United States Senate in our
> > current political environment by unanimous consent (which this did) ,
> > I kinda feel like there won't be a ton of issues with everybody
> > figuring out how to line themselves up appropriately.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 5:01 PM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com>
> wrote:
> > > That is true but at present everything business related in BC has a
> > > clear expectation of being in the same time zone as WA/OR/CA, and AB
> > > matches US Mountain time.
> > >
> > > On Tue, 15 Mar 2022 at 13:35, Paul Ebersman <list-nanog2 () dragon net>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > eric> If Canada doesn't do the same thing at the same time, it'll be
> > > > eric> a real hassle, dealing with a change from -8 to -7 crossing
> > > > eric> the border between BC and WA, for instance. It has to be done
> > > > eric> consistently throughout North America.
> > > >
> > > > You must not have ever dealt with Indiana, where it was DST or not
> > > > by choice per county. It wasn't quite the cluster***k you'd think.
>
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