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Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe)
From: Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org>
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2023 02:24:13 +0000
Bill, That still leaves you open to NTP attacks. The USNO accuracy and monitoring is worthless if you suffer, for example, an NTP DDoS attack. <https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/ddos/ntp-amplification-ddos-attack/> [ddos-lc.png] NTP amplification DDoS attack<https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/ddos/ntp-amplification-ddos-attack/> cloudflare.com<https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/ddos/ntp-amplification-ddos-attack/> There are also replay and Man in the middle attacks (MITM) which can corrupt local NTP servers’ time basis. Worse, security flaws in NTP make others security protocols, such as SSL, vulnerable. https://www.sidn.nl/en/news-and-blogs/security-flaws-in-network-time-protocol-make-other-security-protocols-vulnerable if you can eliminate such security problems for $400, I say it’s cheap at twice the price. -mel On Aug 5, 2023, at 6:18 PM, William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote: On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 12:26 PM Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org> wrote: You might consider setting up your own GPS-based NTP network. GPS time is monitored (and when necessary, adjusted) from the U.S. Naval Observatory Master Clock, which is -the- authoritative time source for the United States. The USNO also provides an NTP time source from the same master clock: https://www.cnmoc.usff.navy.mil/Our-Commands/United-States-Naval-Observatory/Precise-Time-Department/Network-Time-Protocol-NTP/ You -should not- just point your servers there, but it's useful to point a few servers each at one of them in order to serve as your network stratum 2 sources that keep the rest of your machines in sync with each other. That last point is key. You don't want your servers in sync with random Internet time sources. You want them in sync with each other. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin bill () herrin us https://bill.herrin.us/
Current thread:
- NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe) Mark Tinka (Aug 05)
- Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe) Matthew McGehrin (Aug 05)
- Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe) Mark Tinka (Aug 05)
- Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe) Andreas Ott (Aug 05)
- Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe) Mark Tinka (Aug 05)
- Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe) Chris Adams (Aug 05)
- Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe) Mark Tinka (Aug 05)
- Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe) Mel Beckman (Aug 05)
- Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe) William Herrin (Aug 05)
- Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe) Mel Beckman (Aug 05)
- Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe) Niels Bakker (Aug 06)
- Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe) William Herrin (Aug 06)
- Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe) Mel Beckman (Aug 06)
- Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe) Royce Williams (Aug 06)
- Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe) Mel Beckman (Aug 06)
- Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe) Royce Williams (Aug 06)
- Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe) William Herrin (Aug 06)
- Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe) Mel Beckman (Aug 06)
- Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe) Mark Tinka (Aug 05)
- Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe) Neil Hanlon (Aug 06)
- Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe) Rubens Kuhl (Aug 06)
- Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe) Matthew McGehrin (Aug 05)
