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Re: New addresses for b.root-servers.net
From: Masataka Ohta <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2023 14:20:45 +0900
Matt Corallo wrote:
So, let's recognize ISPs as trusted authorities and we are reasonably safe without excessive cost to support DNSSEC with all the untrustworthy hypes of HSMs and four-eyes principle.I think this list probably has a few things to say about "ISPs as trusted authorities"
I'm afraid you miss the point. My point is that trusted third parties of CAs including DNSSEC providers are at least as untrustworthy as ISPs.
- is everyone on this list already announcing and enforcing an exact ASPA policy (or BGPSec or so) and ensuring the full path for each packet they send is secure and robust to ensure it gets to its proper destination?
I'm afraid that is a hype as bad as HSMs and four-eyes principle.
Somehow I don't think this model is workable,
As PKI, including DNSSEC, is subject to MitM attacks, is
not cryptographically secure, does not provide end to end
security and is not actually workable, why do you bother?
Masataka Ohta
Current thread:
- Re: New addresses for b.root-servers.net, (continued)
- Re: New addresses for b.root-servers.net Matt Corallo (Jun 17)
- Re: New addresses for b.root-servers.net Masataka Ohta (Jun 18)
- Re: New addresses for b.root-servers.net Matt Corallo (Jun 18)
- Re: New addresses for b.root-servers.net niels=nanog (Jun 18)
- Re: New addresses for b.root-servers.net Cynthia Revström via NANOG (Jun 18)
- Re: New addresses for b.root-servers.net niels=nanog (Jun 18)
- Re: New addresses for b.root-servers.net Masataka Ohta (Jun 19)
- Re: New addresses for b.root-servers.net Matt Corallo (Jun 19)
- Re: New addresses for b.root-servers.net Masataka Ohta (Jun 19)
- Re: New addresses for b.root-servers.net Matt Corallo (Jun 20)
- Re: New addresses for b.root-servers.net Masataka Ohta (Jun 20)
- Re: New addresses for b.root-servers.net Matt Corallo (Jun 20)
- Re: New addresses for b.root-servers.net Masataka Ohta (Jun 20)
- Re: New addresses for b.root-servers.net Mark Andrews (Jun 20)
- Re: New addresses for b.root-servers.net Masataka Ohta (Jun 21)
- Re: New addresses for b.root-servers.net David Conrad (Jun 16)
- Re: New addresses for b.root-servers.net Jared Mauch (Jun 02)
- Re: New addresses for b.root-servers.net Wes Hardaker (Jun 15)
- Re: New addresses for b.root-servers.net Robert Story (Jun 04)
