[NANOG] Re: IPv6 Legacy IP Warning Stickers

[Ross Tajvar via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

I think there are some interesting conversations to be had (and John Curran
is having them) around what government regulation in the Internet space
looks like (RPKI is a big part of that). Tinfoil hat remarks like the below
do not fall into that category.

On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 5:12 PM Mel Beckman via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
wrote:

> One thing is certain: When IPv6 is mandatory you’ll need a U.S. RealID to
> route it in America. :)
>
>  -mel
>
> > On Apr 1, 2025, at 1:48 PM, Jim Shankland via NANOG <
> nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
> > I'm not a grumpy old man, but I'm going to play one for a minute.
> >
> > The case for IPv6 was that the Internet was about to collapse, or at
> least stall out, unless everybody switched over from IPv4. I don't remember
> when I first heard that claim, but it was definitely in a year that started
> with a "1".
> > It may be true eventually, too -- who knows, maybe even soon. And yes,
> there's been plenty of pain and trouble "behind the curtain" along the way.
> But zoom out to the big picture, and things are still working in IPv4 land.
> IPv6 will take over (perhaps quickly) once that stops.
> > But until then, stickers and loaded language like "modern" and "legacy"
> are unlikely to have any effect at all.
> > I hope it's clear that I'm not arguing against IPv6. I've just been
> watching the "drop dead" date when the transition would be absolutely
> forced get pushed back for half my professional career: 30 years of "any
> day now".
> > Jim Shankland
> >
> >
> > > On 3/27/25 10:07 AM, Lucien Hoydic via NANOG wrote:
> > > Add RCN Chicago (Now Astound), to the list of companies that don't
> support IPV6.
> > > I'm not "Astound"ed by their lack of support for modern technology
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Wednesday, March 26th, 2025 at 1:00 PM, Andrew Latham via NANOG <
> nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
> > > > Today yet another ISP is running Fiber in the utility easement at the
> > > > street. I checked and they do not offer IPv6 or have ANY IPv6 peering.
> > > >
> > > > I have offered the hard to find IPv6 Legacy Warning stickers on my
> > > > Redbubble profile. About a month before any meeting or event I see a
> bulk
> > > > order for Amish IPv6 stickers designed by Phil Benchoff and hard to
> find
> > > > post Google+. I have the markup/profit set to the lowest setting and
> have
> > > > made maybe $8 over 5+ years.
> > > >
> > > > Linky:
> https://www.redbubble.com/i/sticker/Legacy-IP-Warning-by-gringomalvado/38585698.EJUG5
> > > > Ranting a bit as I have four ISPs boxes at the street and two of them
> do
> > > > not have IPv6 in 2025. Converting my frustration into finding Phil and
> > > > sending him some coffee money.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > - Andrew "lathama" Latham -
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