[NANOG] Re: IPv6 Legacy IP Warning Stickers

[Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

IMHO: IPv6 has been designed in such a way (actually it was "political consensus", not a technical design) that
IPv6 would be "the Internet for subscribers" and IPv4 would be "the Internet for businesses"
For many years to come (if not forever).
Ed/
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From: Jim Shankland via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> 
Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2025 23:48
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Cc: Jim Shankland <nanog () shankland org>
Subject: [NANOG] Re: IPv6 Legacy IP Warning Stickers

I'm not a grumpy old man, but I'm going to play one for a minute.

The case for IPv6 was that the Internet was about to collapse, or at least stall out, unless everybody switched over 
from IPv4. I don't remember when I first heard that claim, but it was definitely in a year that started with a "1".

It may be true eventually, too -- who knows, maybe even soon. And yes, there's been plenty of pain and trouble "behind 
the curtain" along the way. But zoom out to the big picture, and things are still working in
IPv4 land. IPv6 will take over (perhaps quickly) once that stops.

But until then, stickers and loaded language like "modern" and "legacy" 
are unlikely to have any effect at all.

I hope it's clear that I'm not arguing against IPv6. I've just been watching the "drop dead" date when the transition 
would be absolutely forced get pushed back for half my professional career: 30 years of "any day now".

Jim Shankland


On 3/27/25 10:07 AM, Lucien Hoydic via NANOG wrote:
> Add RCN Chicago (Now Astound), to the list of companies that don't support IPV6.
>
> I'm not "Astound"ed by their lack of support for modern technology
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 26th, 2025 at 1:00 PM, Andrew Latham via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
>
> > Today yet another ISP is running Fiber in the utility easement at the 
> > street. I checked and they do not offer IPv6 or have ANY IPv6 peering.
> >
> > I have offered the hard to find IPv6 Legacy Warning stickers on my 
> > Redbubble profile. About a month before any meeting or event I see a 
> > bulk order for Amish IPv6 stickers designed by Phil Benchoff and hard 
> > to find post Google+. I have the markup/profit set to the lowest 
> > setting and have made maybe $8 over 5+ years.
> >
> > Linky:
> > https://www.redbubble.com/i/sticker/Legacy-IP-Warning-by-gringomalvad
> > o/38585698.EJUG5
> >
> > Ranting a bit as I have four ISPs boxes at the street and two of them 
> > do not have IPv6 in 2025. Converting my frustration into finding Phil 
> > and sending him some coffee money.
> >
> > --
> > - Andrew "lathama" Latham -
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