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Re: Recommended DNS server for a medium 20-30k users isp


From: William Herrin via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2025 06:18:26 -0700

On Sat, Aug 9, 2025 at 5:38 AM Måns Nilsson <mansaxel () besserwisser org> wrote:
Regarding TCP, yes, this is a potential issue. You can think about it and
it will grow in your mind, or you can do some observations and conclude
that unless you messed your routing up really badly (which is not DNS'
fault but still on-topic here) the mean session length for a client-to
1st hop resolver TCP session is going to be orders of magnitude shorter
than the times between routing updates that make a certain router change
its mind about which anycast node is the closest one.

Hi Måns,

This is a case of misunderstanding what the numbers are telling you.
Yes, the failure rate is low, but it's not random. It's not a case of
99 queries work, 1 doesn't. and you try again and it works. It's a
case of queries work for 99 people and 1 person with just the wrong
connections to the network graph experiences persistent failures. And
then your front-line customer support blames the customer for your
error because obviously it's working for everybody else.

If it doesn't work in the corner cases then it doesn't work.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


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