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Re: MD5 is insecure
From: brent saner via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2025 17:03:21 -0400
On Sun, Aug 31, 2025, 16:39 Krassimir Tzvetanov via NANOG < nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
When we talk about SSH, complexity explodes, because you need to find an MD5 collision that is also a "collision" with the public key (which means both have to have the same moduly). To say it simpler, you will have to calculate multiple MD5 collisions and test each one of them if it can satisfy the public key.
Normally, yes. But unless I read the email incorrectly, the problem is IOS just uses an MD5 of the key sent by the client and verdicts auth *based on the checksum match*. If it matches, it just uses the key the client sent. Which means if IOS does no pubkey packet length validation, you no longer need to generate a keypair that has a pubkey that collides on MD5. You just need a blob that collides with that hash, and will *truncate* to a key you control. Which is much easier to collide.
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