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Re: Layer 2 Transport


From: Yan Filyurin <yanf787 () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 00:55:30 -0500

It is tough to argue against VXLAN or anything over UDP, but another
workhorse of L2 services, especially for cheaper equipment and needing to
go over the top was L2TPv3.

Some interesting stuff was done by Wireguard and Softether, but I am not
sure it counts as service. MPLS-TP is still listed in MEF specs, but the
hopefully equipment supporting that is collecting dust on shelves
somewhere.

There could even be a network somewhere that is doing some variation of
SPB, hopefully converting to EVPN.

On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 12:28 AM Bill Blackford <bblackford () gmail com>
wrote:

Wave circuits

On Jan 23, 2025, at 13:54, Jeff Behrns via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:


Identify L2 control protocols which will require transparent tunneling end
to end before making a decision on underlay tech.  Beware of multiple
vendor handoffs / NNIs under the hood of any solution, but especially an
"oMPLS" solution.

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*From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+behrnsjeff=yahoo.com () nanog org> on behalf of
Aaron1 <aaron1 () gvtc com>
*Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2025 9:32:37 AM
*To:* Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
*Cc:* nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org>
*Subject:* Re: Layer 2 Transport

We use mainly mpls/p2p pw so much for wholesale/business Ethernet, CBH,
and various other purposes.  Still using mpls/vpls occasionally… oob mgmt
backhaul.  For DC interconnect, I use evpn/mpls, since I have an mpls
network.  We are an SP, so mpls has been the basis for our
network-based-L2/L3 VPN’s for 10 years or so.

Aaron

On Jan 23, 2025, at 8:47 AM, Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:


What technologies are predominately in use today to transport layer 2
circuits?

MPLS\VPLS used to be all the rage.
eVPN\VXLAN seems to be popular in the datacenter space.
Carrier Ethernet?



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