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Re: Massive change in Public Cert behaviour coming soon
From: Grant Taylor via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Sun, 18 May 2025 12:07:58 -0500
On 5/18/25 10:26 AM, William Herrin via NANOG wrote:
I'm unclear what distinction you're drawing between "identify" and "authenticate." "I am who I say I am," is the sum total of authentication. Everything beyond that gets into authorization.
+1
Which now that I think about it sounds a lot like there's a layer violation in giving TLS certificates a "for this purpose" tag at all. I knew there was a reason I didn't like it but I was having trouble putting my finger on it.
I don't think it's a layering violation. Mutual TLS authenticates each party to the other.Then each party is free to do whatever they want with that authenticated identity.
The TLS itself has nothing to do with what what is done with the authenticated identity information.
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- Re: Massive change in Public Cert behaviour coming soon William Herrin via NANOG (May 17)
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- Re: Massive change in Public Cert behaviour coming soon brent saner via NANOG (May 19)
- Re: Massive change in Public Cert behaviour coming soon Chris Adams via NANOG (May 17)
- Re: Massive change in Public Cert behaviour coming soon brent saner via NANOG (May 17)
- Re: Massive change in Public Cert behaviour coming soon Grant Taylor via NANOG (May 17)
- Re: Massive change in Public Cert behaviour coming soon brent saner via NANOG (May 18)
- Re: Massive change in Public Cert behaviour coming soon William Herrin via NANOG (May 18)
- Re: Massive change in Public Cert behaviour coming soon Grant Taylor via NANOG (May 18)
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- Re: Massive change in Public Cert behaviour coming soon Grant Taylor via NANOG (May 18)
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