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Re: Spectrum & GRE


From: Christopher Aloi via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 16:14:15 -0400

Thanks Eric and Brendan.  Yes, this is specifically related to when we put
the rac2v1s in bridge mode and I bind one of the static public IP addresses
to my router.  If I captured packets on my router I can see GRE packets
leaving my router destined for my data center, but I never see any of the
return packets I send.  They are being lost/dropped on the way back in.  I
am up to 30 of these now.  What I can't grock is why they come in at a rate
of ~5 every morning.  If anyone has any contacts at Spectrum that might
listen, or a workaround, please let me know!

On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 4:04 PM Eric C. Miller via NANOG <
nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:

Sorry, no help from here per se, but I used to get into the same situation
with AT&T Uverse routers. It seemed to be an issue with the built-in
stateful firewall of the DSL router. I was able to get around it by having
tunnels to multiple public IPs and rotating their usage with a script on
our equipment. The problem seems to self-resolve after a reboot. Very
frustrating when you pay for static IPs.

Good luck!

Eric
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From: Brendan Carlson via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2025 3:20 PM
To: North American Network Operators Group <nanog () lists nanog org>
Cc: Brendan Carlson <brendan () bcarlsonmedia com>
Subject: Re: Spectrum & GRE

I've seen the same thing on those same models with them being in bridge
mode specifically. They generally have issues with gre and l2tp tunnels.

On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 12:13 PM Christopher Aloi via NANOG <
nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:

Hey All,

Hoping someone can lend a hand here.   I have ~ 1k customers running GRE
tunnels back to me for VoIP.  Over the last three weeks these tunnels
have
started to break at a rate of 3-5 per day.  We've narrowed it down to
customers using specific Spectrum routers (rac2v1s and rac2v2s).  I am
still able to access the public IP but the tunnel drops and will not come
back up.  The fix has been to reconfigure as VPN or have the CPE router
replaced with a rac2v1k.  I have been unable to get anyone to listen to
me
at Spectrum as these accounts are owned by the customer and I can't
prove a
systemic issue.  I have a list of accounts that have been impacted.  Has
anyone else encountered this?  Any contacts at Spectrum that might listen
to me?  I am fearing all of these tunnels will go down at some point.

Thanks,

Chris
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